AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

This is my second hand at the table, so no reads. I would appreciate comments on the Turn and River, as I think Pre-flop and Flop are pretty standard.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

What is the rationale behind the turn check-raise? And how is it an improvement over simply betting out?

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

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This is my second hand at the table, so no reads. I would appreciate comments on the Turn and River, as I think Pre-flop and Flop are pretty standard.

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Bet-fold the turn. Check-raising is really awful with no read.

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

Bet/fold turn. Why are you raising?

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

Check the post times. Great minds think alike.... or something.....

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Check the post times. Great minds think alike.... or something.....

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It gets even freakier. There were no posts in the any of the forums between ours...

#4184318 - 12/13/05 10:14 AM
#4184319 - 12/13/05 10:14 AM

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

No need to try to get tricky here. Just keep betting, fold to a raise. Checking the turn lets him see a free river with a low pocket pair and or flush draw if he so chooses. Allows the same low pair to show down for 1.5 BBs after the flop instead of 2.5.

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

First post - but AK gives me fits. I see it as basically a great drawing hand, but if you don't improve, it loses its value too quickly. I think in this situation, I call preflop, check the flop and check fold the turn. It's not improving - no flush possibility, no straight possibility. If ou hit the A or the K, you are susceptible to Qx.

Again - I'm not an expert - far from it, so I'm really interested in what people have to say on this, and don't take this post as any sort of useful info. Just my thoughts.

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

FPS-Fancy Play Syndrome. At these limits I don't see him laying down anything that beats you and against an aggressive player with a queen, you would have just been three bet on the turn. Like the others say, keep it simple and bet until a raise hits.

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First post - but AK gives me fits. I see it as basically a great drawing hand, but if you don't improve, it loses its value too quickly. I think in this situation, I call preflop, check the flop and check fold the turn. It's not improving - no flush possibility, no straight possibility. If ou hit the A or the K, you are susceptible to Qx.

Again - I'm not an expert - far from it, so I'm really interested in what people have to say on this, and don't take this post as any sort of useful info. Just my thoughts.

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You want to bet the flop since the button may have been stealing with a wide range of hands. Unless he has a pocket pair or one of the five cards that beat you (2 q's and 3 2s) you are ahead in the hand. If you check/call then check/fold you invite the sharks to pick on your blinds. Remember he has to hit his, or we are ahead on this flop with our ace king.

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

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You want to bet the flop since the button may have been stealing with a wide range of hands. Unless he has a pocket pair or one of the five cards that beat you (2 q's and 3 2s) you are ahead in the hand. If you check/call then check/fold you invite the sharks to pick on your blinds. Remember he has to hit his, or we are ahead on this flop with our ace king.

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That makes sense. The thing that ties me up is that at this level, you're always at the table with some guy who won't bet out or raise you, even when he has the Q. Heck, even when he has Q2 in this hand. (He'll also cold call raises or reraise preflop with the Q2...go figure) You bet, he checks, you check, he checks - all the way to the river. There are no reads in the hand posted in this thread, but I hate that guy, wherever he is. Especially when he beats me at the river and acts like he's the next Phil Ivey. I know I'll come back and break that guy eventually, but still...

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

Thank you for the replies. I ended up winning the hand, but I really felt like I had played it badly and just got lucky when he ended up calling with a worse Ace. I think in most situations I am up against a small pocket pair after he calls the check/raise on the Turn, and the check/raise really only makes the hand more expensive for me, not more valuable.

Thanks again.

Re: AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)
 

*grunch*

I would bet the turn and fold to a turn raise. If he calls the turn I'm not sure about the river--I'd probably check/call because betting and getting raised would suck.

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