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tripp0807 08-12-2005 09:26 AM

Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
PP NL $100, full table

Hero is BB with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villian is UTG+1 (first hand, posts BB) who checks, folds around to CO who calls, SB completes, Hero raises to 6, Villian calls, CO calls, SB folds. (Pot $19)

Flop: 2,4,5 rainbow

Hero bets $19
CO folds
Villian pushes all-in (raises to $45)

Hero?

08-12-2005 09:27 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
Hero calls

fuzzbox 08-12-2005 09:31 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
Call, really fast.

tripp0807 08-12-2005 09:33 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
OK, so since I did, and he showed 45 sooted for two pair that filled up on the turn, I'm no donk, right (I'm just starting NL cash games, so sorry for wasting time, if I am).

08-12-2005 09:36 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
OK, so since I did, and he showed 45 sooted for two pair that filled up on the turn, I'm no donk, right (I'm just starting NL cash games, so sorry for wasting time, if I am).

[/ QUOTE ]

You played it well, and got unlucky, no donk

jkkkk 08-12-2005 09:39 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
Call, easy.

punter11235 08-12-2005 09:46 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
Its only 26 to call so you should call but remember fundamental rule of no-limit :
"big bet usually means big hand".

Best wishes

yvesaint 08-12-2005 09:51 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
Call, put Villain on buddy list, reload.

jhall23 08-12-2005 09:57 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
OK, so since I did, and he showed 45 sooted for two pair that filled up on the turn, I'm no donk, right (I'm just starting NL cash games, so sorry for wasting time, if I am).

[/ QUOTE ]

Nah, in general putting in ~50bb on an AA,KK overpair is never a big mistake.

2Fast2Furious 08-12-2005 11:20 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
I think I still would've called and you can't blame yourself but with that bet I would be thinking he's got a set of 5s or open-ended straight draw with something like 6-7 suited (close to what he had) and I could be in real trouble even if I hit a king. In Supersystem Doyle Brunson talks about how he loves to play those type of hands and I generally try to if it's cheap and I can limp and call a smaller raise which is what happened here (3x BB bet is what you did I think). I also probably would've tried to bet half the pot on the flop not the pot but I'm a wuss with my betting and generally don't get aggressive enough in situations like this - I bet most people would say bet the pot to price people out. But him coming over the top to your larger bet smells like trouble and you're putting all your chips in right?

BigF 08-12-2005 11:29 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
I can limp and call a smaller raise which is what happened here (3x BB bet is what you did I think). I also probably would've tried to bet half the pot on the flop not the pot

[/ QUOTE ]

He raised to 6BB preflop.

Pot the flop because you are out of position. Consider folding if someone comes over the top. But in this case it's an easy call because it's heads up and villain is short stacked.

ijustliketoplay 08-12-2005 11:39 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
easy call

ryanghall 08-12-2005 11:52 AM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
He's a shortstacked donk. Call him.

Ryan

pzhon 08-12-2005 12:06 PM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
The flop action is out of order.

If he were shoving in a full 100 BB stack, that would be something to think about. Here, you are getting great pot odds. You can call if he shows you two pair. He could be raising with a lower overpair or a pair and straight draw or an open-ended straight draw. This is a trivially easy call.

Rosie5 08-12-2005 12:15 PM

Re: Bad play, bad beat or \"it happens?\"
 
you're still like 30% to win this hand even if he spikes 2 pr on the flop. and how can you put him on that

with so much invested I insta-call


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