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Okay, I want to know something honestly. Are there any, and I mean ANY men out there intimidated by "powerful" women?

Im not intimidated by anyone I've ever met... not that Im special, Im just proud of who I am and how I got here.

I think that this is a case of the "Powerful" women who also happen to be bitches, being told that men are scared because they're powerful. No. We're not scared, you're just a raging bitch.

I dont understand it... when men act that way, they're called pigs, and thoughtless and a-holes. When women act that way, they're called "powerful"... I know boobs are great, but come on.

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I have mace, I dont live in fear anymore

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What's your def of "powerful women?" Women in position of authority, i.e., your boss? Decisions makers who(m) affect your job? Hillary Clinton?

I'm being serious.

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What's your def of "powerful women?" Women in position of authority, i.e., your boss? Decisions makers who(m) affect your job? Hillary Clinton?

I'm being serious.

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Nah, I mean the everyday working girl who wears girl suits, and swears up and down she doesnt need men... also treating men who come up to her like crap.

See: Hitch, how the girl acts in the beginning of the movie.

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Nah, I mean the everyday working girl who wears girl suits, and swears up and down she doesnt need men... also treating men who come up to her like crap.

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OK. These I try and stay away from. Also, I never turn my back on them or confide in them. My experience with them has been B.A.D. The can be the most ruthless, conniving, viscious, dangerous animal on the face of the earth. And they care not the gender they prey on.

By staying away I don't mean I go out of my way to ignore them. That only brings you, IMO, up on their radar as a potential target. I was always friendly, courteous and professional when dealing with them.

My first CO in the AF was a female major. I had nothing but respect and admiration for her. When I got out I worked with females in positions of authority. Mix of bad, good, great. Just like men. That's with 2 very large corps. Many of the females in the trenches, though, seem to have a lot of "issues."

Looks like I'm gettin' windy - again. No, I'm not intimidated by them. Just wary.

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God yes, all the females that I went through training with were.... interesting.

Dating one of them would have been like dating a stripper... soon enough the crazy will come out.

Actually I was attracted to my female CO's... had a hot drill, god ever so sexy.

So hot!
Soooo hot!
Want to touch the hiney!

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Want to touch the hiney!

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LMAO. Mine too! What an ass she had! And her uniforms were all tailored t-i-g-h-t!

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yeah, I actually used to go out of my way to get in trouble with Drill Henning.... after basic, she said I was "tough as hummingbird lips"... to which of course I replied something I dont really remember (I had just road marched 11 miles after three days and nights in the field)... something about my lips... and she got upset.

I was the only one of us on Fire Guard our last night.
haha

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Okay, I want to know something honestly. Are there any, and I mean ANY men out there intimidated by "powerful" women?

Im not intimidated by anyone I've ever met... not that Im special, Im just proud of who I am and how I got here.

I think that this is a case of the "Powerful" women who also happen to be bitches, being told that men are scared because they're powerful. No. We're not scared, you're just a raging bitch.

I dont understand it... when men act that way, they're called pigs, and thoughtless and a-holes. When women act that way, they're called "powerful"... I know boobs are great, but come on.

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'Bitch' is to female

as

'Prick' is to male.


Women don't understand that. They get all "Why am I a bitch if a guy does the same...." -shut..the fu*k...up!
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You're a bitch because if you were a guy I'd be calling you a prick, not a 'strong-willed man'............now go make me a sandwich.

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I will give you a perfect example. Myself.

As you know, I am a female. At the age of 16 I lost my only parent, and mother, to heart disease. I had to work and pay the rent/bills and go to a demanding art magnet high school for the years before and after her death. I learned very early how the world worked and what was necessary to continue on. I am a no-bullshit person: I take none and leave none. I became very independant and self-reliant, and guys totally dug me for it. I was not a bitch, I was not a game player. I just want(ed) honest people as my friends because I cannot stand drama, games, bullsh1t, etc.

I don't know what you consider a powerful woman, but because of my past, I come on strong. I am harsh, but I can't help it.

All of us are human. We learn only from our experiences and each of us are different. I don't think categorizing anyone is right, unless you know them personally.

But there are women that are bitches. I think you've confused them with a truly great type of woman.

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no no no... I was hoping YOU would understand what Im saying.

See, women like you have all the good qualities of this type of female, independance, ambition, desire, passion (INCREDIBLY SEXY).. and men still dig you.

BECAUSE YOU ARENT A BITCH. men arent scared of a woman like you. They shouldnt be. They're impressed.

I hope you see now what I meant, you dont have to act like you're God's gift to penises, because you know you're not... you're just a human.

Thats how it should be.

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Ok, I'm going to have to hijack this thread to ask a really newbie question, but where does everyone get these animating avatars? I've seen this one you have with the fat kid only he's shooting off guns. The first time I saw it I think I laughed for 15 minutes straight.

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oh sure, hijack my thread.

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search the internet for animated gifs..

or animated avatars...


see if throwing the word funny in there doesnt help.

gl... and I want your thoughts on this post dammit.

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Ok, I am going to read between the lines, and suggest what this thread is really all about...... you fancy Margaret Thatcher. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

You just can't get enough of those power suits, and yet you know its wrong... so you are trying to convince the world that you are not afraid of these 'powerful woman'!

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Okay, I have to ask ... by "Bitch" do you mean a woman who is insensitive to the needs of others, be they male or female?

A person who happens to be female who takes advantage of others, or even someone who happens to be female, who say unduly (unprovoked that is) rips a person to shreds verbally in front of others, without regard to what it might do to the other person?

Is that what you mean by 'Bitch'??

I ask, because many men seem to (also) assign that term to a woman who won't take any crap off of anyone, male or female, who will NOT in effect, 'lie down and take it with a smile', but who instead gives as good as she gets (in other words, she can take it, but she can dish it out just as good too).

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What's your def of "powerful women?" Women in position of authority, i.e., your boss? Decisions makers who(m) affect your job? Hillary Clinton?

I'm being serious.

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Nah, I mean the everyday working girl who wears girl suits, and swears up and down she doesnt need men... also treating men who come up to her like crap.

See: Hitch, how the girl acts in the beginning of the movie.

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So you mean women who act like men?

But seriously...

This is, IMHO, a serious problem in our society. The feminist movement created a lot of good things for women, but it also really screwed up how men and women look at themselves and at each other.

The real problem is that so many women have chosen to embrace their masculine side - goal-oriented, pleasure seeking, and independent. So they are now focused on their careers, on getting laid, and on taking care of themselves.

The problem is that no one is picking up on the feminine side - the nurturing, caring, and emotional side. Many women are not suited to the masculine charactersitics they have adopted - they cannot be tough-minded business savvy workers without being, for lack of a better word, b*tches. For many men, competition is a part of their makeup - they can fight each other and compete against each other as though they were the bitterest of enemies, then, when its all over, they can walk over to their opponent, shake their hand, and, with all honesty, thank them for the competition and congratulate them on a hard-fought battle - this is not a very "feminine" way to interact.

The problem, as I see it, is that so many women have tried to shoe-horn themselves into a male situation, rather than trying to draw on their own strengths.

The real tragedy in all this is that no one is minding the home. Its fine to have two working parents - what, IMHO, you can't have is two CAREER-ORIENTED parents. The priority of one of the parents HAS to be on raising the family because, lets face it, whatever day care or nanny services you may use, parenting is a full-time job.

As a whole, what has happened as a result of the feminist movement, ironically, is that our entire society has become masculanized - and it has created an imbalance.

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I am afraid of my wife (in healthy, respectful way of course [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ). She is a stay at home mom who works out 4 days a week and plays a vicious game of tennis. The only thing in my favor is that I have a 60 lb weight advantage (170 vs 115) and a high tolerance for pain. It is definitely no fun when I tick her off.

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This thread does ignore one basic difference between most women and most men: men are physically stronger. So the word "fear" generally has a different connotation. Now, weapons are an equalizer and some women are stronger than some men. But in general, physical advantage belongs to the male and, until recently, basically every other advantage did too based on that.

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This thread does ignore one basic difference between most women and most men: men are physically stronger. So the word "fear" generally has a different connotation. Now, weapons are an equalizer and some women are stronger than some men. But in general, physical advantage belongs to the male and, until recently, basically every other advantage did too based on that.

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Most men are physically stronger - that is true.

However, it is also true that there is no equivalent to the "kick to the groin" for women. You can be the biggest, scariest, most roided out freak of nature and you will still drop to the ground and cry like a baby if you get one in the cojones.

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You are one of the better trolls / gimmick accounts I've seen in my entire websurfing life. A sincere kudos.

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I ask, because many men seem to (also) assign that term to a woman who won't take any crap off of anyone, male or female, who will NOT in effect, 'lie down and take it with a smile', but who instead gives as good as she gets (in other words, she can take it, but she can dish it out just as good too).

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That's hot.

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Yep. The traits I look for in a woman are (apart from physicalities) independance, passion, ambition, and honestly a sarcastic sense of humor (else they'll hate me).

These are all fantastic qualities, and mistakenly many women will say that a woman as "strong" as this will scare men, intimidate them, and drive them away. Not so... but there is another type of woman, who has some of these traits, but is also ruthless, "untouchable", wants a man to be a puppy she can train. That is unacceptable. They are not God's gift to penises. They are raging b*tches and if they were men, everyone would treat them so.

However, in this new society, where gay men and women are given every leeway (Im not hating, but its true... look around) and straight men are the new scapegoat, these type of women are praised, petted and told what amazing creatures they are.

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Yep. The traits I look for in a woman are (apart from physicalities) independance, passion, ambition, and honestly a sarcastic sense of humor (else they'll hate me).

These are all fantastic qualities, and mistakenly many women will say that a woman as "strong" as this will scare men, intimidate them, and drive them away. Not so... but there is another type of woman, who has some of these traits, but is also ruthless, "untouchable", wants a man to be a puppy she can train. That is unacceptable. They are not God's gift to penises. They are raging b*tches and if they were men, everyone would treat them so.

However, in this new society, where gay men and women are given every leeway (Im not hating, but its true... look around) and straight men are the new scapegoat, these type of women are praised, petted and told what amazing creatures they are.

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www.urbancougar.com

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Yep. The traits I look for in a woman are (apart from physicalities) independance, passion, ambition, and honestly a sarcastic sense of humor (else they'll hate me).

These are all fantastic qualities, and mistakenly many women will say that a woman as "strong" as this will scare men, intimidate them, and drive them away. Not so... but there is another type of woman, who has some of these traits, but is also ruthless, "untouchable", wants a man to be a puppy she can train. That is unacceptable. They are not God's gift to penises. They are raging b*tches and if they were men, everyone would treat them so.



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I agree ... the problem is ... most men, especially those under 30 tend to THINK with their penises. In other words, their brain resides between their legs, instead of between their ears.

I have a grown son, who will be 26 in March. He had one of those types of women that he lived with for 3 years, and she truly WAS a Bitch.

She tried her best to drive a wedge between myself and my son, and the more she tried, the more she failed, and the more she hated me, and tried to drive the wedge deeper.

Not only that, but she was an abuser. One time my son left his dirty undershorts on their bedroom floor, after a shower, and forgot to put them in the hamper.

He was exausted, as he'd been working two jobs to make ends meet, and went to bed. The next thing he knew, he was being beaten awake by her, and she was screaming at him about how could he not put his undershorts in the hamper.

She then ordered him out of the house (it was her house), and when he refused (he paid half the rent), she called the cops and tried to tell him HE beat her.

Well, the cops took ONE look at him, and the blood dripping down from his scalp, and said "Sir, do you wish to press domestic abuse charges against this woman??", which just infurated her even more.

Being his mother, when he showed up at my house, I was livid at her (and I'm too much of a lady to say here what I said about her and what I wanted to do to her, until my son stopped me), and we took pictures of his injuries just in case she was able to twist things around, later on down the road.

Well, he moved out but here she comes ... sweet talking him, wagging her butt at him ... pretty soon .. you know who (or rather, what) was doing the thinking for him again.

Back and forth it went, almost 3 years in total, until he finally shed this Bitch this past summer.

He's got a new girlfriend, one I like and get along with.

However, my point is ... I had a guy once tell me this:

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When the 'little head' is doing the thinking, there will be HELL to pay later on.

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and from what I've observed, that is pretty much the case indeed.

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The types of women you are describing are often deeply affected and have self-esteem issues. They are constantly trying to proove themselves for one reason or another. Perhaps they couldn't live up to their family's expectations or they feel disadvantaged in a male-dominated world or they are just fighting depression or some other emotional disorder. I am, unfortunately, attracted to this type of woman. They have a very difficult time putting any sort of focus on a person other than themselves.

What I really want to find is a strong woman who doesn't find the need to proove herself. Someone who is comfortable enough in their own skin to be able to accept someone else in their life.

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What I really want to find is a strong woman who doesn't find the need to proove herself. Someone who is comfortable enough in their own skin to be able to accept someone else in their life.

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This is what most guys thinking with their "big heads" (great post cincy) want. We see passion, ambition, intellect, and drive as very attractive... but when these things are all a ploy, or are a facade put there to hide the truth, the woman is sliding down a slippery slope.

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This is a funny topic.

I have a history of dating women who intimidate a lot of men, for a variety of reasons (looks, height, career, attitude). I tend to be attracted to outgoing women who stand out in a crowd.

Thinking about it now, none of these women were the "top" in our relationship - their love life was the one area where they wanted to feel feminine and sheltered.

I call BS on a lot of the "feminazi" crap - every single woman I've ever been with has looked to me to sack up and be the frickin' man. If there is a problem in our society, I think the problem may actually be with the men, not the women: our society doesn't reward backbone enough, so not enough guys develop one.

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To be honest I believe the only people intimidated by these "powerful women" are in fact other women. Not all women obviously but some none the less. All the guys I know don't take things seriously enough to be intimidated.

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What's your def of "powerful women?" Women in position of authority, i.e., your boss? Decisions makers who(m) affect your job? Hillary Clinton?

I'm being serious.

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Hillary Clinton a powerful woman? You have to be kidding! To be powerful you have to be successfull usually through thier own moxie. I can not recall anything that Hillary has ever accomplished on her own. Hillary is a good example of a hard ass spoiled bitch.

A better example of a powerful woman would be C. Rice, Sandra Day O'conner, Elizabeth Dole, Barbra Boxer, Margret Thatcher, Camile Pagella, and the CEO of eBay.

Do you see why?

I am being serious.

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Okay, I want to know something honestly. Are there any, and I mean ANY men out there intimidated by "powerful" women?

Im not intimidated by anyone I've ever met... not that Im special, Im just proud of who I am and how I got here.

I think that this is a case of the "Powerful" women who also happen to be bitches, being told that men are scared because they're powerful. No. We're not scared, you're just a raging bitch.

I dont understand it... when men act that way, they're called pigs, and thoughtless and a-holes. When women act that way, they're called "powerful"... I know boobs are great, but come on.

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A show about scantily clad women, and a bunch of men talking about all the ass they got the weekend prior is vulgar. If girls do it, it's 'fun,' 'empowering,' and wins awards. Deal with it.

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I am not sure what this post have to do with gambling.

I fear no one at the poker tables, I do however respect my opponents male or female.

- sunek

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This is the psychology forum, under "general gambling", and if women arent a gamble, I dont know what is.

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Nice post. Pretty much sums up my sentiments exactly.

I had some lengthy arguments on this with a feminist on another forum, and in the end we each conceded a key point to the other. I conceded that men are largely responsible for letting the situation get out of hand because of the way they used to ridicule women for their lack of rationality and the unimportance of what they do compared to what men do. Men made the cardinal mistake of not respecting women for their feminine qualities enough and that got the women angry and so they started to grow penises. The rest is history.

The feminist conceded that they've got what they wanted and more and still don't seem to be satisfied.

I see feminism as being the key reason for the low savings rate and high debt rate, which could prove to be the eventual downfall of the economy. I've found that uncontrolled spending and borrowing tend to happen when women are in charge of the finances.

What can men do about it? As fathers I think it's important to explain to our sons that T+A is good for a while when you're young, but after that the traditional qualities are what makes a good wife and leads to a happy family. Of course we need to set an example for that lifestyle ourselves.

As to why women think men are "afraid" or "intimidated", I think they simply need an explanation for why so many men will gladly have sex with them, but so few will stay with them in a long-term relationship. Like with everything else, they say the first thing that feels good and comes to their mind and when there is no resistance (because men can't be bothered explaining it all...I mean what's the point if you're gonna leave the b*tch anyway, right?), they just assume they're right. Psychologically it's a lot easier than being self-critical.

Paging Dr. Dom...
 

Dr. Dom, please report to this thread. Thank you.

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Yeah, lets pop Dom a couple of PM's and get his ass over here.

Darryl, that's my point exactly... feminazi's took an inch, and now we give them three miles! Im all for equality in a relationship... hell, if I have to, I can stay home for the family (I have poker), but now it seems that when women shout equality, they dont mean it, they just wanna run things.

No. Im sorry, thats not going to happen.

I believe that this all started when we allowed them to make us put the seat back down on the toilet. If this is really about equality, they should have to put the seat back UP when they're done!

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I agree. Powerful women do not intimidate men. We just don't want to fuk them, so they haave to come up with a reason.

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Behemoth, are you currently in college? If you are, then let me assure you that all this radical feminist stuff you're running into is largely irrelevant to life in the "real world."

These women you describe have bought into the lie that men and women's differences arise from social and cultural pressures. Erroneously conflating equality with sameness, they are convinced that men have the best of things and believe that the key to success is exaggerating their own male characteristics while forcing men to assume more feminine traits.

Well, they couldn't be more wrong. Men and women not only differ physically, but also chemically and neurologically. We are not at all the same. To the contrary we are designed (by God or by evolution) to be mutually complimentary to each other and the process of child rearing.

Radical feminists try and fail to subvert the masculine and feminine traits that have been wired into us for hundreds of thousands of years. This is, of course, is impossible; the failure being evidenced by the bitchy and miserable nature of virtually every radical feminist in existence.

Simply put, these "powerful women" who get under your skin are a bunch of pissed off, unhappy souls who will remain in this state until they stop denying their true nature. They really shouldn't get you worked up at all. Rather, you should pity them; for they are truly lost.

And a piece of advice for you: Don't waste your time arguing with people who are angry about the world. Pissed off individuals don't have a damned thing figured out. Let them remained pissed off and unhappy while you remain positive and upbeat. This will be the only victory you ever need.

Once you've got things figured out for yourself, it becomes less necessary to "prove" others wrong.

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Honestly they dont really piss me off, I hardly think about them... I kinda pity them because they delude themselves. The only reason this thread started was because of comments in another couple of chick threads by a couple of chicks.

I completely agree, although I've taken a year off from school, and in that time I saw this behavior in women too old to be able to claim they act that way because they are college chicks.

Its a shame too, because many of them are attractive.

c'est la vie.