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TomCollins 11-20-2005 01:32 PM

You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
Rate based on who you think would win the most games against each other.

1) USC
2) Texas
3) PSU
4) LSU
5) OSU
6) Miami
7) Oregon
8) Notre Dame
9) Auburn
10) VT

trying2learn 11-20-2005 01:36 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1. USC
2. Texas
3. Notre Dame
4. LSU
5. Miami
6. OSU
7. Penn State
8. Oregon
9. Virginia Tech
10. TCU

Vote4Pedro 11-20-2005 01:44 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
I hope you have a good expanation or atleast some kind of affiliation for #10

Clarkmeister 11-20-2005 01:44 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1. USC
2. Texas
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Auburn
6. Fresno State
7. Oregon
8. Notre Dame
9. Ohio State
10. Miami (Fla)

trying2learn 11-20-2005 01:58 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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I hope you have a good expanation or atleast some kind of affiliation for #10

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You didn't even put up a list of your own first off, and second - I'm not going to carbon copy the same list eveyone else has. I'm not an expert, but the teams that I have seen that looked the best to me are on my list. Your objection is duly noted.

TomCollins 11-20-2005 01:58 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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1. USC
2. Texas
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Auburn
6. Fresno State
7. Oregon
8. Notre Dame
9. Ohio State
10. Miami (Fla)

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Clark, why do you have Fresno right ahead of Oregon? Oregon beat them.

Vote4Pedro 11-20-2005 02:00 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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I have seen that looked the best to me are on my list.

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Fair enough

Clarkmeister 11-20-2005 02:02 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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1. USC
2. Texas
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Auburn
6. Fresno State
7. Oregon
8. Notre Dame
9. Ohio State
10. Miami (Fla)

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Clark, why do you have Fresno right ahead of Oregon? Oregon beat them.

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Close loss on the road. Their performance against USC, also on the road, was light years better than Oregon's performance against USC, which was at home.

I'm interested how both you and the other poster can leave Fresno totally off your list.

mmbt0ne 11-20-2005 02:04 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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1. USC
2. Texas
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Auburn
6. Fresno State
7. Oregon
8. Notre Dame
9. Ohio State
10. Miami (Fla)

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Clark, why do you have Fresno right ahead of Oregon? Oregon beat them.

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Same reason he doesn't have GT in front of Miami and Auburn probably.

TomCollins 11-20-2005 02:32 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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1. USC
2. Texas
3. LSU
4. Penn State
5. Auburn
6. Fresno State
7. Oregon
8. Notre Dame
9. Ohio State
10. Miami (Fla)

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Clark, why do you have Fresno right ahead of Oregon? Oregon beat them.

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Same reason he doesn't have GT in front of Miami and Auburn probably.

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There is a huge difference there. When two teams are RIGHT next to each other, and one beat the other head-to-head, I'm likely to switch them. But you can't ALWAYS have a head-to-head matchup correcting everything without screwing everything up. But that screws up nothing.

The reason I don't have Fresno on the list is I have little respect for Oregon. With Fresno, you can really only look at 2 games to judge how good they are, which are both losses. Oregon has snuck by some of the crappiest teams in the Pac-10. So perhaps they would be 11? Or bump off Auburn?

Tough call.

Clarkmeister 11-20-2005 02:36 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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The reason I don't have Fresno on the list is I have little respect for Oregon.

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Yet you still have Oregon at #7.

TomCollins 11-20-2005 02:43 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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The reason I don't have Fresno on the list is I have little respect for Oregon.

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Yet you still have Oregon at #7.

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Was running out of teams. I'm pretty confident in my top 6, beyond that, a little shaky.

Clarkmeister 11-20-2005 02:44 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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The reason I don't have Fresno on the list is I have little respect for Oregon.

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Yet you still have Oregon at #7.

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Was running out of teams. I'm pretty confident in my top 6, beyond that, a little shaky.

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I think you vastly overrate Miami if this is what you really think.

TomCollins 11-20-2005 03:30 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
They have lost 2 games to decent (not great) teams. They have played well against some very good teams. They'd eat Fresno alive.

otis_nixon 11-20-2005 03:58 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1.USC
2.Texas
3.Penn ST.
4.Auburn
5.LSU
6.Notre Dame
7.Va tech
8.Georgia
9.Ohio ST.
10.Oregon
11.Alabama just thought I'd throw that in their

mmbt0ne 11-20-2005 04:02 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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8.Georgia

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Really? Why?

Jack of Arcades 11-20-2005 04:11 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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4.Auburn
5.LSU

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??

lastchance 11-20-2005 04:12 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1. Texas
2. USC
3. Penn State (Big ten = Ownage)
4. Va Tech (why are some people leaving this team off the list?)
5. OSU
6. Oregon
7. Miami
8. Notre Dame
9. LSU
10. Michigan (toughest schedule in country)

TheNoodleMan 11-20-2005 04:29 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
Oregon has lost only one game, and has been playing for almost half the year without their starting QB. They deserve some respect . Sadly, I think they're going to get a lot more attention next year due to the media jumping all over Ryan Leaf's little brother.

11-20-2005 04:36 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1.USC
2. Texas
3. Penn State
4. Virginia tech
5. LSU
6. Ohio State
7. Notre Dame
8. Oregon
9. Auburn
10. UCLA

TomCollins 11-20-2005 04:37 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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4. Va Tech (why are some people leaving this team off the list?)

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27-7.

private joker 11-20-2005 04:37 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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8.Georgia

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Really? Why?

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I don't want to put words in wingo's mouth, but... Their loss to Florida was w/o Shockley, and their loss to Auburn was total B.S. They outplayed Auburn.

Georgia is the best 2-loss team in the country.

mmbt0ne 11-20-2005 04:39 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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8.Georgia

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Really? Why?

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I don't want to put words in wingo's mouth, but... Their loss to Florida was w/o Shockley, and their loss to Auburn was total B.S. They outplayed Auburn.

Georgia is the best 2-loss team in the country.

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As evidenced by all those good teams they've beaten?

private joker 11-20-2005 04:43 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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As evidenced by all those good teams they've beaten?

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As evidenced by all that good football they've played.

mmbt0ne 11-20-2005 04:45 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
Easier to play football against bad teams. They aren't top 10.

Greg J 11-20-2005 05:10 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1) USC
2) Texas
3) LSU
4) PSU
5) OSU
6) ND
7) Auburn
8) UGA
9) VTech
10) Fresno State
EDIT: 10) (tie) Michigan


Anyone without at least two SEC teams in thier top 10 is smoking something they should not be.

Greg J 11-20-2005 05:17 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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1. Texas
2. USC

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Ummmm, what?!?

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3. Penn State (Big ten = Ownage)

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Fair enough.

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4. Va Tech (why are some people leaving this team off the list?)

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This is why:
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7. Miami

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6. Oregon
...
9. LSU


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This is some sort of joke... right?

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10. Michigan (toughest schedule in country)

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You might have a case here.

antidan444 11-20-2005 05:25 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
USC
Texas
Notre Dame
Penn State
LSU
OSU

7-10 looks like a gigantic clusterfuck to me, and I can't make heads or tails of anything. I think ...

Miami
Auburn
Virginia Tech
Alabama

... are the nest best four, but I have nothing on which to back that up, so don't ask.

TomCollins 11-20-2005 06:02 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
I still can't figure out why everyone is on ND's nuts. They played a close game against USC. So did ASU? Should they be #4?

pokerdirty 11-20-2005 06:21 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1 USC
2 Texas
3 LSU
4 Penn State
5 OSU
6 Auburn
7 ND
8 Va Tech
9 Miami
10 Oregon

SomethingClever 11-20-2005 06:29 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
No Oregon in your top 10, eh?

You, sir, are biased.

PhatTBoll 11-20-2005 06:38 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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I still can't figure out why everyone is on ND's nuts. They played a close game against USC. So did ASU? Should they be #4?

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It might have something to do with the fact that they have a competent offense, unlike a fair number of the other teams on these lists.

MCS 11-20-2005 06:48 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
(1) Texas
(2) Southern California
(3) Ohio State
(4) Penn State
(5) Virginia Tech
(6) Notre Dame
(7) Miami (FL)
(8) Louisville
(9) Oregon
(10) Louisiana State

Greg J 11-20-2005 07:08 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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No Oregon in your top 10, eh?

You, sir, are biased.

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Perhaps I am (I think most of us are to some extent, without meaning to be). I think any one of those teams in my top ten (eleven) would beat Oregon on a neutral field if they played them (including Fresno State if they played again). That is how I measure top teams. FWIW, Oregon would be 12th.

MCS 11-20-2005 07:32 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
Just so Clark's head doesn't blow up, I will point out that I'd have Fresno State #11. (And Michigan #12.)

Clarkmeister 11-20-2005 07:45 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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Just so Clark's head doesn't blow up, I will point out that I'd have Fresno State #11. (And Michigan #12.)

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I think it's fairly absurd that I'm the only one with them in my top 10, while everyone has USC and Oregon in theirs.

MCS 11-20-2005 07:59 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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Just so Clark's head doesn't blow up, I will point out that I'd have Fresno State #11. (And Michigan #12.)

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I think it's fairly absurd that I'm the only one with them in my top 10, while everyone has USC and Oregon in theirs.

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Come on. It's obviously NOT absurd that everyone has USC.

Oregon is at least debatable. I had trouble with # through #11. I just don't think Fresno State is better than Oregon, though I think it's close. I don't know what else to tell you. For the record, I think that compared to most people, I care a lot more about margin of victory and trust certain computer rankings more.

If I had to group the twelve teams I've mentioned so far, I'd group them thusly.

1 2
3 4
5 6 7 8
9 10 11
12

Clarkmeister 11-20-2005 08:02 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
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For the record, I think that compared to most people, I care a lot more about margin of victory [/quote

Then how do you like Oregon more than Fresno when Oregon got massacred at home by USC, while Fresno nearly beat them on the road?

Paxosmotic 11-20-2005 08:08 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1. USC
2. Texas
3. Penn State
4. LSU
5. Notre Dame
6. Ohio State
7. Auburn
8. Virginia Tech
9. Georgia
10. Miami

Vince Young 11-20-2005 08:09 PM

Re: You rate your top 10 NCAA Teams
 
1. Texas
2. USC
3. LSU
4. PSU
5. OSU
6. Auburn
7. Notre Dame
8. Miami FL
9. V Tech
10. Oregon


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