Absolute Rakeback
 

Hey guys,

My fiancee currently plays on Party skins, and is basically a break even player, and uses her rakeback money for spending money.

I hear tonight Absolute is going to be offering 6 tables. So I think she should switch there.

We use the same computer. I was able to use IGM-Pay with Empire/Euro. But Absolute doesn't allow any of this.

What kind of process does Absolute go through when they 'lock' down accounts? You send ID? They just send your money back and say, no thanks?

I was thinking I might deposit using an electronic check, or maybe my firepay account.

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if she's break even at party, she'll be a loser at absolute. The games there are pretty bad.

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if she's break even at party, she'll be a loser at absolute. The games there are pretty bad.

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Party skins are not the same as Party, but I agree that Absolute games are pretty bad most of the time.

To the OP, get a neteller account. Absolute hasn't ever asked me anything beyond that.

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if she's break even at party, she'll be a loser at absolute. The games there are pretty bad.

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seriously? ive found there to be some deleciously juicy games (i assume by bad u mean they play good).

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if she's break even at party, she'll be a loser at absolute. The games there are pretty bad.

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seriously? ive found there to be some deleciously juicy games (i assume by bad u mean they play good).

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It depends on when you play and how many games and how much time you want to spend on table selection. If you just sit down into a random 2/4 or 3/6 game, especially while it's daylight, you'll very likely be in a bad game.

The low-limit short games are inhabited by about a dozen regulars, of which about eight play very well in my opinion.

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I hear tonight Absolute is going to be offering 6 tables

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Where did you hear this? Link?

I'm playing alot of absolute 2/4 & 3/6 right now and the only hitch I see would be that the player base isn't large enough to easily support 6 tabling at a given limit right now. Even at night, 6-8 tables of 2/4 & 1-3 of 3/6 is usually all you'll find.

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ive found there to be some deleciously juicy games

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Iv'e seen this too, but not in the usual 'loose passive' sense that is typical of the ideal Party Poker table.

Most of the "juicy" games Iv'e seen are bonus whoring, TAG'y, rock gardens. But there is a good % of TAGs who absolutely suck post flop.

For example; seeing a 12 - VPIP, 8 - PFR player turn into an illogical maniac to steal/defend blinds is common at absolute.

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Most of the "juicy" games Iv'e seen are bonus whoring, TAG'y, rock gardens. But there is a good % of TAGs who absolutely suck post flop.

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Obviously there is some money to be made off such players.

But it stands to reason that a bad postflop player who sees 20% of flops is going to lose a lot less money postflop than an equally bad postflop player who sees 60% of flops. The loose player has three times as many chances to mess up. That's one important reason beginners are counseled to play tight. Fewer chances to make expensive mistakes postflop.

Weak-tight games are never going to be as good as loose/passive limpfests.

Note I'm not discussing shorthanded games.

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if she's break even at party, she'll be a loser at absolute. The games there are pretty bad.

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seriously? ive found there to be some deleciously juicy games (i assume by bad u mean they play good).

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It depends on when you play and how many games and how much time you want to spend on table selection. If you just sit down into a random 2/4 or 3/6 game, especially while it's daylight, you'll very likely be in a bad game.

The low-limit short games are inhabited by about a dozen regulars, of which about eight play very well in my opinion.

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I will take that as a compliment, i have an 80% chance of being a good player.......

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...i have an 80% chance of being a good player.......

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Actually sir, you only have a 66.667% chance of being a good player.

Do you see why?

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Weak-tight games are never going to be as good as loose/passive limpfests.


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True that.

I think you could argue that the large amount of bonus overlay at Absolute makes up the EV difference between the two types of games.

I only talked about the "juicy TAG" game because Absolute has a rep for being so tough. I think there is plenty of money to be made in those games above and beyond the bonuses.

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I will take that as a compliment, i have an 80% chance of being a good player.......



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Are you the guy who keeps killing me heads up?

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Are you the guy who keeps killing me heads up?

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oh man... I play a lot on Abs 2/4 and 3/6 (usually 6-max). I'm playing after 9pm Pacific time... I wonder how many of you are taking my $$$? I'm surviving on bonii and rakeback there.

FishNChips
"The Sucker" at the Absolute Tables

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I'm sure I play a lot of you at Absolute. It's not all that tight, but the density of good players is higher at Absolute than at Party.

That said, the limpfest at Party is just KILLING an aggressive like me this month. I raise, they call. Flop. Bet. Call. Turn. Bet. Call. River. Bet. Reraise. Crap. K4 beats AK on a KT864 board.

Welcome to hell.

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I took a crack at 3 tabling 5/10 at Absolute today.

I felt good being there, the games seemed significantly looser than 1/2 or 2/4, definitely not a bonus whoring rock garden. But I managed to drop 50 BB in 4 hrs.

Maybe I'm just another TAGish sucker.

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"That said, the limpfest at Party is just KILLING an aggressive like me this month."

So maybe you should calm down.

-Michael

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...i have an 80% chance of being a good player.......

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Actually sir, you only have a 66.667% chance of being a good player.

Do you see why?

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lol................now that is funny....nice hand sir...

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"That said, the limpfest at Party is just KILLING an aggressive like me this month."

So maybe you should calm down.

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Nope. It was just a 3 weeks session of variance. Checked my stats, nothing out of order. I had my 300 BB meltdown. Now in recovery mode.

Hope I didn't just jinx myself. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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I took a crack at 3 tabling 5/10 at Absolute today.

I felt good being there, the games seemed significantly looser than 1/2 or 2/4, definitely not a bonus whoring rock garden. But I managed to drop 50 BB in 4 hrs.

Maybe I'm just another TAGish sucker.

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What's your absolute s/n?

I'd be willing to tell you if you were a sucker.

I play these games very regularly and I'll meet about 1 opponent out of every 40 that actually scare me at the 5/10 level.

At 10/20+, it's about 1 out of 20, and they are all 2+2ers.

I find these games profitable enough, but most of the clowns on there aren't as good as they think, even the ones from 2+2.

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What's your absolute s/n?

I'd be willing to tell you if you were a sucker.


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Im sure you would, but I'll decline the offer. I'd hate to wind up on a proven 5/10 winner's "buddy list" at this point.

Iv'e played 5/10 at pokerroom & party with profitable results over about 2500 hands each (yes, I know thats not alot, at this point I'm only taking "shots" at 5/10).

Ironically, the Absolute 5/10's I played the other day felt like one of the juiciest 5/10 iv'e ever played in. I had PA HUD up on the screen and the loose fishy ones quickly became distinguishable from the tighter, better players.

At this point iv'e reviewed about 70% of my hands from that session and have concluded that - 1) I made several critical, costly, mistakes. 2) I ran significantly worse than usual. 3) With some adjustments, I should be able to beat the Absolute 5/10 (although I might not scare anyone while doing so)

Here are my stats from that session.
VPIP - 21.16
PFR - 8.02
VPIP from SB - 42.11
Folded SB to steal - 54.55
Folded BB to steal - 100
Att to steal blinds - 26.32
Won $ WSF - 26.32
WTSD - 30.7
Won$ SD - 31.43
AF - 1.27