AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 

Read <font color="green"> UTG Has PT stats of:26/13/1.6 over 100 hands
I've seen a few hands but no strange behaviour, Pretty aggressive but jumps into "call down mode" pretty fast.

Overall hes a pretty ok player, With a hint of Weak tightness i'd say. </font>

6max .50/1 Game
Preflop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in BB
UTG Raises, Button Calls, Hero Calls, Everyone else HAS FOLDED.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, <font color="red">UTG Raises</font>, Button Folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, <font color="red">UTG Raises</font>,Hero....



Now i played this hand badly, but i won't reveal the line i took and the line i feel i should of taken. I will leave this up to you guys.

Please grunch, don't worry about anyone parroting the saem responses - Just want to get an idea of everyones individual opinions

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Pretty aggressive but jumps into "call down mode" pretty fast.

Overall hes a pretty ok player, With a hint of Weak tightness i'd say. </font>

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It's tempting to fold the turn here. It looks like you're up against an overpair at least, and possibly a flush.

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Pretty aggressive but jumps into "call down mode" pretty fast.

Overall hes a pretty ok player, With a hint of Weak tightness i'd say. </font>

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It's tempting to fold the turn here. It looks like you're up against an overpair at least, and possibly a flush.

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Yeah when a weak tighty raises a scary board after being bet into on 2 streets, you've got to be concerned - this isn't KJ very often.

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 

Allright. I would CR the flop. Should he 3-bet Im calling down. I really dont like the turn donk. As you played it I think you can fold the turn.

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 

Grunching as requested:

Against a tricky player, I'd call down, because I'd hate to make a hard decision against a possible bluff raise, and calling down gets us to showdown for the same cost as check-raising the turn. In addition, it induces tricky players to bluff more hands that we beat, like middle pair or a weak J.

Check-raising the turn doesn't fold anything that beats us. Flushes will 3-bet us, and a 9 has odds to call in hopes of boating up. It might fold a J, but we beat or tie any of those anyway.

Against a straightforward player, I'd donk the turn and fold to a raise. If he just calls, check the turn to either induce a bluff or get a free showdown. I don't think we're ahead of enough hands to value bet here, but I haven't stoved it. I

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 

After reading the other posts, I realized that I forgot the flop action.

I don't like check-raising the flop. I think bet/3-bet gets us in better shape to decide on the turn and folds the button on this semi-drawy flop. If it is capped, I'm thinking overpair. If not, we are in better shape. Then if he wakes up and bets again, we know it means much more.

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 

grunch...

check raise the flop.

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Fold preflop. Pound these players with a better hand, if you were suited the call would be fine.

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Fold preflop. Pound these players with a better hand, if you were suited the call would be fine.

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no no no no no no. i realize this post of mine is worthless, but just no.

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What's so great about AJo here? I think calling is marginal, and this hand will be hard to play correctly postlop.

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it's [censored] AJ, you're in the BB and you're paying one SB to enter a ginormous pot. do you think you won't make up that SB? if you're folding hands like this in raised pots in the BB in 6max games you are leaking tons of money out of the BB.

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Fold preflop. Pound these players with a better hand, if you were suited the call would be fine.

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No no no, and I might actually raise in this spot, if UTG were bit looser. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Oh, you're in the big blind? I thought you were on the CO or something. Nevermind, you're completely right then.

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What's so great about AJo here? I think calling is marginal, and this hand will be hard to play correctly postlop.

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AJ is a strong hand here. It's possible we're dominated but it's not like full ring where it's very often the case. When you consider 66+, ATo+, A8s+, KTs+, KJo+ are all potential raises you do pretty well against them.

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Check raise the flop. Given that you didn't, 3-bet it.

On the turn you have to pay 2 BB in order to win 9 if you want to call down. That would require about 20% equity. Against his range of 99, JJ+, AJ, KJ with a diamond, QJ with a diamond, AdTd+, KdQd, you have 25% equity. Call down.

Furthermore, we can fold if a diamond comes on the river, so we only pay 1 BB in those cases.

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What's so great about AJo here? I think calling is marginal, and this hand will be hard to play correctly postlop.

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Puhleeeeze.... loosen up and live a little. You have nearly even equity against even a TAGs raising standards here (about the top 13% of hands).

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,958,861,312 games 4.172 secs 709,218,914 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 49.8624 % 45.70% 04.16% { 77+, A8s+, KTs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, ATo+, KJo+, QJo }
Hand 2: 50.1376 % 45.97% 04.16% { AJo } </pre><hr />

Edit: the only reason I don't raise is because we're out of position against a decent player who calls down postflop. If UTG could fold sometimes after we 3-bet PF, this is an easy raise.

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 

So you'd have no trouble playing with position and make a coldcall?

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So you'd have no trouble playing with position and make a coldcall?

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I have a huge problem with that. If we are going to play, you have to 3-bet. Folding wouldn't be awful though, but only because he is such a tight pre flop raiser. Against most people this is an easy 3-bet.