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I started playing on-line poker back in 2003 at a sight claiming to be the first or oldest on-line room. I had played poker on and off for many years. I have read and studied books by first-class authors and clearly understand the importance of being a solid player and playing my best all of the time. When I started playing on-line in 2003 the sites I played at were on the up-and-up. I usually played several hours a day and it provided a steady income. However, in late 2004, it was as if someone flipped a switch and changed the game. It must have been around that time when software technology allowed the sites to begin preserving the bankrolls of lesser skilled players at the expense of accomplished players. Don't forget, volumes of players and rakes are how the sites make their money. Certainly folks have noticed that none of the poker rooms come out and say "our cards are totally random (or pseudo random)." Rather, they brag about the sophistication of their RNGs and make statements relating to no statistical bias regarding the cards dealt to their players. Think about it, if the weaker hands are allowed to win more than normal, as long as it applies to all, there is no statistical bias. Everyone's cards are being manipulated the same! This negatively affects skilled players a disproportionate amount of time as they will most often be going in with the best hand. I'm very much aware of poker great Bobby Baldwin stating that draw outs are a mirage, and I agree with his logic. However, what is happening on-line goes far beyond what Baldwin refers to. I have seen a fairly long term steady income vanish overnight. It is nothing short of the proliferation of software that enables sites to manipulate cards while still being able to make sidestepping statements regarding statistical bias. When we have an on-line site that offers a true poker game and is willing to state so in no uncertain terms, that site will have more players than it can host. Yes, they will be mostly skilled players and the competition will be tough. However, most folks would much rather get out-played by a real poker player than to have the rug pulled out from under them by software engineers catering to greed. The software has effectively made players once considered "suckers" the wise ones for playing in games that are enhanced for their preservation. And for the skilled players, I expect a large portion have already abandoned on-line poker. In the end greed will lose and someone will have the guts to bring back the real on-line poker sites of yesteryear. And yes, my post will be refuted by those whose income depends on the continued shearing of the unsuspecting.

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Think about it, if the weaker hands are allowed to win more than normal, as long as it applies to all, there is no statistical bias.

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The trouble is, there will be. You can check your statistics for each hand(AA, KK, J4o, etc), and do SQL queries to find out how often sets hold up, how often flushes hit, etc.

I have done exactly this with a 60K hand database. AA, KK, QQ, AKs, AQs, JJ, AKo, are my 7 biggest winners, and all win with the expected percentage. Flopped sets hold up 90% of the time. Flush draws that go to the river hit with the expected frequency. The numbers don't lie.

I'm currently writing a post about this issue, the never ending conspiracy theories are getting old.

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Please post your statistics which prove that it is "rigged."

Seriously, if you can PROVE with STATISTICS that aces win only 50% of the time for goot players, do it. In fact, you can prolly get us each to pay you $10 for doing so.

Based on the couple hundred thousand hands I have on file, I'm certain if you can point me in the right direction, I can confirm the data myself.

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I will make you a deal, Ill give you my username & password for any online account I have & if you can win consistently over a period of time , I double you winnings. Its not possible unless your affiliated with the site. I have the same studies & those hands you mention are definately set up hands on my account. Ill go as far to say that anyone that says they win online or play online for a living is a lyar or they are affiliated with the site in such a manner their cards are dealt to them with an advantage. Pokerconduct.com is trying to expose these sites, eventually it will come out. Please quit trying to defend as your efforts will be overrun soon.

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I'd be willing to take you up on that offer. And I think several others will too.

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JB, I play poker professionaly, it is my only source of income, but i can only win in live play. I consider myself to be in the top 1% of NL players, I am very aware of all angles of the game. I almost certain that a solid player can beat players coming in under the gun with 4 gap offsuit connectors & calling raises when it comes back around. I used to play 3 to 4 tables at a time. Ive played millions of hands at almost every site & its absolutely not possible to win.

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you're just a spammer.

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Yes i am a member there, I got tired of watching all my friends lose their life savings online to crooked bastards & ill spend my life exposing it if i have to. Which site do you work for, I know all your tricks

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You suck, your website sucks and spam in general sucks.

Goodday sir.

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I'd be willing to take you up on that offer. And I think several others will too.

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If there were some way of doing it securely, and making sure this guy doesn't run off with your money. I can't think of one, unless the site was willing to work with you. Which he'd claim meant they helped you on the tables as well.

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You're an idiot. Visit my website www.youareanidiot.com.

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If, as you claim, you are a skilled player, and know that the software is biased towards weaker starting hands, why don't you just adjust your play?

Play the weaker hands strongly, and fold the stronger ones. There. Solved your problem. Now you can go back to playing profitably online. See you at the tables!

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Well, for one, If youll notice i did not write that article, another poster at pokerconduct.com did. I thought it was worthy to be read here. This biggest problem is that doesnt really solve the problem of the cards not being random. People are losing there life savings online. People are getting rich off of this & laughing all the way to the bank. Its a corporate mob. Thats not right. & besides you cant beat them, you get 2nd best hands, Its not as easy as playing crap & beating players with better hands, it doesnt work that way. Losing players are given better flops to keep them in the game, otherwise the sharks would put them out of the game quickly & table rake would not be maximized, But the biggest scam of all is the bots & house players that will take money from the accounts coded for distribution after they have won a sizeable amount.

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You're an idiot. Visit my website www.youareanidiot.com.

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NH Sir

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ESAD

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This tinfoil hat wearing meat popsicle has been posting here since May?!?

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God, I'm so incredibly annoyed by your posts. For the love of god, just stop now. Pretty much every single one of your posts explain how Online Poker is not legitimate, and they lead us to pokerconduct. Guess what, nobody cares.

Why don't you go explain to your mother that online poker is rigged? Maybe she'll at least pretend to care.

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I started playing on-line poker back in 2003 at a sight claiming to be the first or oldest on-line room. I had played poker on and off for many years. I have read and studied books by first-class authors and clearly understand the importance of being a solid player and playing my best all of the time. When I started playing on-line in 2003 the sites I played at were on the up-and-up. I usually played several hours a day and it provided a steady income. However, in late 2004, it was as if someone flipped a switch and changed the game. It must have been around that time when software technology allowed the sites to begin preserving the bankrolls of lesser skilled players at the expense of accomplished players. Don't forget, volumes of players and rakes are how the sites make their money. Certainly folks have noticed that none of the poker rooms come out and say "our cards are totally random (or pseudo random)." Rather, they brag about the sophistication of their RNGs and make statements relating to no statistical bias regarding the cards dealt to their players. Think about it, if the weaker hands are allowed to win more than normal, as long as it applies to all, there is no statistical bias. Everyone's cards are being manipulated the same! This negatively affects skilled players a disproportionate amount of time as they will most often be going in with the best hand. I'm very much aware of poker great Bobby Baldwin stating that draw outs are a mirage, and I agree with his logic. However, what is happening on-line goes far beyond what Baldwin refers to. I have seen a fairly long term steady income vanish overnight. It is nothing short of the proliferation of software that enables sites to manipulate cards while still being able to make sidestepping statements regarding statistical bias. When we have an on-line site that offers a true poker game and is willing to state so in no uncertain terms, that site will have more players than it can host. Yes, they will be mostly skilled players and the competition will be tough. However, most folks would much rather get out-played by a real poker player than to have the rug pulled out from under them by software engineers catering to greed. The software has effectively made players once considered "suckers" the wise ones for playing in games that are enhanced for their preservation. And for the skilled players, I expect a large portion have already abandoned on-line poker. In the end greed will lose and someone will have the guts to bring back the real on-line poker sites of yesteryear. And yes, my post will be refuted by those whose income depends on the continued shearing of the unsuspecting.

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Haha, stockman's back. Where's your buddy King Striker? Isn't he on his sixth banning now? What happenned to making the final table at the WSOP and wearing a pokerconduct.com t-shirt? Guess the WSOP was rigged to, otherwise a player as good as you should definitely have made it.

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I'd be willing to take you up on that offer. And I think several others will too.

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I still believe that PartyPoker is rigged . . . .
 

but I have concluded that it is rigged in my favor.

TSP

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This tinfoil hat wearing meat popsicle has been posting here since May?!?

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Are you kidding me? He authored one of the most infamous poker is rigged posts around, on the magazine forum, it was at the top for months and had hundreds of replies. It eventually got locked.

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Ive played millions of hands at almost every site & its absolutely not possible to win.

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BS

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I am a losing player.

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FYP

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I am a losing player.

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FYP

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Well done sir.

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Ive played millions of hands at almost every site & its absolutely not possible for me to win.

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Finished fixing your post.

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I started playing on-line poker back in 2003 at a sight claiming to be the first or oldest on-line room. I had played poker on and off for many years. I have read and studied books by first-class authors and clearly understand the importance of being a solid player and playing my best all of the time. When I started playing on-line in 2003 the sites I played at were on the up-and-up. I usually played several hours a day and it provided a steady income. However, in late 2004, it was as if someone flipped a switch and changed the game. It must have been around that time when software technology allowed the sites to begin preserving the bankrolls of lesser skilled players at the expense of accomplished players. Don't forget, volumes of players and rakes are how the sites make their money. Certainly folks have noticed that none of the poker rooms come out and say "our cards are totally random (or pseudo random)." Rather, they brag about the sophistication of their RNGs and make statements relating to no statistical bias regarding the cards dealt to their players. Think about it, if the weaker hands are allowed to win more than normal, as long as it applies to all, there is no statistical bias. Everyone's cards are being manipulated the same! This negatively affects skilled players a disproportionate amount of time as they will most often be going in with the best hand. I'm very much aware of poker great Bobby Baldwin stating that draw outs are a mirage, and I agree with his logic. However, what is happening on-line goes far beyond what Baldwin refers to. I have seen a fairly long term steady income vanish overnight. It is nothing short of the proliferation of software that enables sites to manipulate cards while still being able to make sidestepping statements regarding statistical bias. When we have an on-line site that offers a true poker game and is willing to state so in no uncertain terms, that site will have more players than it can host. Yes, they will be mostly skilled players and the competition will be tough. However, most folks would much rather get out-played by a real poker player than to have the rug pulled out from under them by software engineers catering to greed. The software has effectively made players once considered "suckers" the wise ones for playing in games that are enhanced for their preservation. And for the skilled players, I expect a large portion have already abandoned on-line poker. In the end greed will lose and someone will have the guts to bring back the real on-line poker sites of yesteryear. And yes, my post will be refuted by those whose income depends on the continued shearing of the unsuspecting.

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stfu

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Here, stockman, I have a gift for you:

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It's some blank space you can use to seperate paragraphs in your future rants.

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PARAGRAPHS

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PARAGRAPHS

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Actually, I've been wondering about this for quite some time. Does anyone know the code needed to insert tabs when posting?

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As someone striving to build a poker site with my team, I have to sit back and marvel at stockman's body of work.

You, sir, are to BS what Salivdor Dali was to paint. You take bits of the known and then melt them over a steaming pile of crap for the audience to ponder. Bravo....bravo.

Might I offer up a tiny bit of criticism? You need more programming background in order to really capture the imagination of many of the folks here. Some of your stories have characters doing absolutely impossible feats and well, anyone with one semester of computer science who's read them will get a good laugh. Not that they aren't entertaining, but I gather you're trying for the Tom Clancy feel of realism rather than the Star Trek feel of realism. Perhaps getting a technical writer to proof read your stories?

All and all, wonderful stuff. I hope you keep it up. My poker dev team enjoys your yarns as well. We like to start off our meetings now with a few choice bits here and there. Honestly, you should think about getting an artist to make them into cartoons.

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insane crackpot, or spammer in disguise?

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Best. Title. Ever.