5/10 deep, river decision
 

Villian is 35/5/1.6

I'm 90% certain he has a flush. What's my action?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">CO ($2275.65)</font>
Button ($2274.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($2021.55)</font>
BB ($1020)
UTG ($2422.50)
MP ($374)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $60</font>, CO calls $60, Hero calls $40.

Turn: ($210) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, BB folds, CO calls $150.

River: ($510) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

checkraise allin?

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

How about betting 600 and folding to a push? I don't think c/r all-in is a great idea, since you obviously get stacked by the nuts and you may lose a smaller flush. If you bet 600, I doubt he folds a small flush.

Just throwing something out there because I'm trying to break out of my super-standard play. I normally bet 350-400 and call a raise.

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

Bet pot &amp; call an all-in.

I don't think you can justify not getting to showdown. I'm fairly certain you are aware. How you go about doing so is entirely up to you. Even betting 1/2 pot and calling a raise here works. If you're scared of the second nuts, check/call?

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

Why do you think he has a flush. With those guys who almost never raise preflop, I almost never see them raising the flop with a flush draw.

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

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Why do you think he has a flush. With those guys who almost never raise preflop, I almost never see them raising the flop with a flush draw.

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CO calls $60

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Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

Oooops.

Yeah, well I follow edge's line, but bet ~ 485-pot, fold to raise.

some things to consider:

- Kx hearts is the hand you fear, but if he had a hand like KT, J hearts would he open from the CO?

Limped in with JTs? That's a juicy looking hand on the turn.

Limped in with small pair?

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

i like bet 650 and fold to a raise.

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

This hand is killing me. I'm convinced this is a disguised bad beat post.

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

I checked, he bet $300, I raise to $1000.

He moves in. I call.

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

He held K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and MHINFG.

I've been grappling with this one since (and my thoughts ran the same while the hand occurred). What are your thoughts on this:


checkraising for more value: Let's say my opponent holds J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] then if I check he MUST bet. I then raise to $1000 whereby he'll (should) just call. This line gets me more value than say just betting $600 and him calling. I've just made $400 more than I would if I bet the river. But I run the risk of 'committing myself' against the nuts if he pushes. Is this risk too big for the reward of getting an extra large bet out of a lower flush?

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

flush vs flush is the most expensive situation in holdem, no, you're not getting away, thats the nature of the game.

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

There's an optimal line here though being almost certian my opponent also has a flush. If my hand is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I am check/calling the river. Being that I have 2nd nuts should I be betting and calling a raise or check/raising to get my entire stack in?

Re: 5/10 deep, river decision
 

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you're not getting away

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I disagree. People tend to call big bets at the end with baby flushes so after being raised you can safely (almost) fold. I like Flawless line of betting 650 and folding to a raise.

Best wishes

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you're not getting away

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I disagree. People tend to call big bets at the end with baby flushes so after being raised you can safely (almost) fold. I like Flawless line of betting 650 and folding to a raise.

Best wishes

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I mean with 2nd nuts, I agreem I would bet/fold with a small flush. (I dont like check/callling here at all...(