Two Plus Two Older Archives

Two Plus Two Older Archives (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   Rake Back (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49)
-   -   Pokerroom site offerin 50% "Rakeback" (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=400696)

KINGOFINLAND 12-18-2005 08:38 AM

Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
Whats the url of the pokerroom site offering unlimited deposit bonus that are actually same as 50% rakeback.
Or is there other sites in the network then Eurobet&Hollywood offerin real rakeback?

Thanks,

KING

kirahvi 12-18-2005 09:00 AM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
bayoupoker.com

4thstreetpete 12-18-2005 11:09 AM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
thanks, will give this a try.

TylerD 12-18-2005 11:33 AM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
interesting - but what exactly does [ QUOTE ]
Bonus money is release into real money at a 2:1 contributed release ratio.

[/ QUOTE ] mean?

is it literally 50% of your rakeback (only the pots you win)?

do SnG fees count?

are there any affliates (for actual rakeback)?

12-18-2005 12:08 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
The bonuses are released at a rate equal to 50% contributed rakeback.

goodguy_1 12-18-2005 12:39 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
they also just last week finally added a downloadable version-prior to that only the java version was available. I'm glad I saw this thread becuase I deposited $500 and forgot about it. EuroBet needs to come out with their new tiers for rakeback soon or they will lose players to skins that have better deals...after of course players clear the $600 deposit bonus at Eurobet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

fivecube 12-18-2005 01:31 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
I agree the Eurbet Rakeback is terrible now

Morrek 12-18-2005 03:01 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
What is so bad about eurobet rakeback? I'm not very into this but I found 30% rakeback there and it looks ok to me(haven't started playing yet though so feel free to convince me)

shoe478 12-19-2005 10:57 AM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
interesting - but what exactly does [ QUOTE ]
Bonus money is release into real money at a 2:1 contributed release ratio.

[/ QUOTE ] mean?

is it literally 50% of your rakeback (only the pots you win)?

do SnG fees count?

are there any affliates (for actual rakeback)?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd like to know these things too. i thought the contributed rake would be rake/# of players in a pot.

$2 raked/4 players = .50 cents...and you get a .25 of that.

krimson 12-19-2005 12:22 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
What is so bad about eurobet rakeback? I'm not very into this but I found 30% rakeback there and it looks ok to me(haven't started playing yet though so feel free to convince me)

[/ QUOTE ]
The rake on eurobet is about 30% higher than other sites [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

12-19-2005 12:28 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
You are correct. It is total rake divided by players in the pot times times 50%. You do not have to win the pot. That was a question in a previous post. You do actually have to play the hand by either being in one of the blinds or calling the initial bet. It is not dealt hands where you only have to be dealt in to the hand and not actually play it. All the Pokerroom skins are contributed not generated/dealt to my knowledge.

TylerD 12-19-2005 12:47 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
thanks.

[ QUOTE ]
do SnG fees count?

are there any affliates (for actual rakeback)?


[/ QUOTE ]

anyone?

AAAA 12-19-2005 10:02 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
are you sure? i thought it was a percentage of the rake based on how much you put in the pot, not just if you put anything in the pot.

shoe478 12-20-2005 12:28 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
Eurobet rake is based on the "contributed" method. If a pot is raked $2 and you fold preflop then you don't receive any rake for that hand. If it is raked $2 and 5 people contribute to the hand then each would be credited with 40 cents in rake.

that is the message i got from my affiliate

AAAA 12-20-2005 01:21 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
i have asked the affiliate manager at eurobet for confirmation. no sense just speculating. it does make a big difference. what you are saying is "see the flop" and what i am saying is "percentage of pot"

bodog does see the flop...but i was almost positive that eurobet was percentage of pot.

AAAA 12-20-2005 03:21 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
Rule 2.7 Affiliate T's and C's:
"...a Player's contribution to the "rakes" shall be determined as the number obtained when dividing the actual amount of rake to which the Player had contributed divided by the total number of players who made a contribution to the pot. For the avoidance of doubt sitting in but not contributing to a pot does NOT accrue rake."




actual amount of rake to which the Player had contributed

that is the key phrase. it means that you only get credit for the portion of the rake that you contributed. the confusing part is what happens when you max out the rake. after $60.00 or whenever the rake is capped, those additional dollars may not be counted as

"actual amount of rake to which the Player had contributed "

JRussell 12-20-2005 03:57 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
Rule 2.7 Affiliate T's and C's:
"...a Player's contribution to the "rakes" shall be determined as the number obtained when dividing the actual amount of rake to which the Player had contributed divided by the total number of players who made a contribution to the pot. For the avoidance of doubt sitting in but not contributing to a pot does NOT accrue rake."




actual amount of rake to which the Player had contributed

that is the key phrase. it means that you only get credit for the portion of the rake that you contributed. the confusing part is what happens when you max out the rake. after $60.00 or whenever the rake is capped, those additional dollars may not be counted as

"actual amount of rake to which the Player had contributed "

[/ QUOTE ]

I Believe that means you get credit for equal share of the rake if you contributed anything to the pot. It doesn't matter if you contributed $1 or $30 because the actual rake is divided (equally I assume) among all players who contributed. This means you are getting credit for the rake others pay and not just your own.

AAAA 12-20-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
i am quite sure they divide each time a new rake is taken, but i have emailed support and given several situations and asked them to give examples.

in other words, if you aren't in the pot when the $3.00 of rake is taken, you do not get a share.

12-20-2005 08:52 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
AAAA, I'm not saying for certain you're mistaken but I'm pretty sure the rake is divided by all players who contribute and not based on the actual amount bet by the player. I am not aware of any sites that figure it that way. My understanding has always been there are two methods. The generated/dealt method and the contributed method.

12-20-2005 10:13 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
That is a good question. I understand it as everyone who is the the pot gets equal share. I have never heard of % of pot calculation.

AAAA 12-20-2005 10:31 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
Bossmedia, prima, tribeca, actiongaming and most dobrosoft sites pay that way (percentage of rake=percentage of money in the pot). bodog is everyone gets paid who sees the flop, i believe. most others, party, UB, paradise, UPN, noble poker pay rake/players dealt cards. not sure about WPEX.

absolute and true poker are dealt cards.

12-20-2005 11:29 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bossmedia, prima, tribeca, actiongaming and most dobrosoft sites pay that way (percentage of rake=percentage of money in the pot).

[/ QUOTE ]

Ummm...Are you certain of this? I have never seen contributed rakeback defined this way before.

Jeff W 12-20-2005 11:38 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
EuroBet needs to come out with their new tiers for rakeback soon or they will lose players to skins that have better deals...

[/ QUOTE ]

That's pretty funny.

goodguy_1 12-21-2005 04:33 AM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

EuroBet needs to come out with their new tiers for rakeback soon or they will lose players to skins that have better deals...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



That's pretty funny.


[/ QUOTE ]

not meant to be funny just a statement of fact. EuroBet is supposed to come out with better rakeback rates soon that will be more competitve with other PokerRoom skins... right now I get 32% on EuroBet but at other rooms I can get 40% and 50%.

When I finish the $600 EuroBet bonus ..if EuroBet hasnt ammended their tiers my action will go to another PokerRoom skin. I really hate EuroBet/PokerRoom's software-it assaults your senses-annoying sound effects,the action is hard to follow and for multi-tabling anything over 4 tables it's a nightmare. They have such an inconsistent mix of games. I would'nt play LHE lower than $5-10 there because of the rake and their LHE and NLHE games are schizo ...most games are not good but often you'll find insanely good games ..its' all very hit or miss... anyway NLHE seems to be the best action for me at least. 5MAX games are better than 6MAX !

AAAA 12-21-2005 05:51 PM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 


[ QUOTE ]
You only have to put money in a pot to be given rake against your account. i.e. 10 player table-6 fold-player A folds the small blind-player B plays the flop on big blind-player C flat calls and raises the turn both player D who has flat called the flop and player B fold to C. The rake is $1 all 4 players will have 25 cents attributed to them whilst the other 6 players will not have any rake contribution given to them. Yours sincerely, Mark Patrick, Poker Manager,


[/ QUOTE ]

this clarifies that money in the pot is all that is needed. so this would be classified almost as see the flop, but not quite, since you could have a small blind and fold and qualify from this definition.

this is better than the method of percentage of pot, but clearly not as good as being dealt cards. I have already asked about stud games, since there is an ante in every hand, you would be part of the pot on every hand, so it would be effectively the same as dealt cards!

p.s. i have also heard that prima is doing something other than percentage of pot, but i am not sure. i think it is that you are credited for every hand you are in the pot when rake is first taken, but i am checking on it.

12-27-2005 11:06 AM

Re: Pokerroom site offerin 50% \"Rakeback\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
right now I get 32% on EuroBet but at other rooms I can get 40% and 50%.



[/ QUOTE ]

Am I doing something wrong? I only get 25% RB on EuroBet...where can you get 40 or 50% Rake Back without becoming a "Prop?"

Please PM me or post here - anybody! I feel like I screwed up getting the low %ages that I did.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:12 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.