Live or online tournaments which is more profitable?
Live or online tournaments which is more profitable?
LIVE BADs You have a higher rake rounds go by slower because of a live dealer. Travel time, wait time. LIVE GOOD 15-30 min rounds Read opponent's tells smaller field to get through Get to hold some REAL chips [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ONLINE BAD Can't read players. hundreds of players to weed through. Too easy to just "click" an action Not as much time on the clock for thinking. Rounds are fast 9-15 mins. Power/DSL/Modem/PC can go out at any second. ONLINE GOOD PC deals fast. No travel expense No travel time No time wasted to start tournament Get to be a Champion in your underwear Quiet. small start blinds in relation to stack. As for opponents I think live has weaker opponents. More weak tight, loose players calling with dominated hands. They play scared because you have to put in $50-$200 for a good live tournament where online $33 is nothing. The poor players are easy to read like a big fat highway sign. I prefer live personally and have done better live. Thoughts and reasons why one is better than the other? |
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Wow. You live in Florida and prefer live tournaments?
I hate the live structures that are "constricted" due to the crazy Florida laws regarding poker. I almost refuse to play live here unless it's just to get out with friends and have some fun. I agree the players are usually weak tight, but the structures and laws surrounding poker play in this state are so ridiculous that I greatly prefer online play. |
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Live Bad additions.
Often have great extra expense w/hotel and meals out. There are not many that you are physically able to enter/ On Line Good additions. Huge number of tourneys available make ROI easier to realize. Comfort of Home play makes stress of playing easier to handle. Bathroom breaks have a much shorter line. Your wife can sub if you need to play catch outside with your son. |
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a couple you missed..
ONLINE GOOD Multi-tabling, obviously. Saved HH + PokerTracker, essential for the studious player. |
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Live Good: Horrid play compared to the same buy in levels on line.
Regards, Woodguy |
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Live Bad additions. Often have great extra expense w/hotel and meals out. There are not many that you are physically able to enter/ On Line Good additions. Huge number of tourneys available make ROI easier to realize. Comfort of Home play makes stress of playing easier to handle. Bathroom breaks have a much shorter line. Your wife can sub if you need to play catch outside with your son. [/ QUOTE ] lol. Ive had my wife sub when the bowels came a callin' |
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Really?
The ones I play are generally $150 buy in with the house taking 20% 30 min rounds with 4000 chips. Is there better? Please inform, please do. BTW I am moving to Baltimore after my house sells here in Fort Lauderdale. AC is 3 hours away woohoo! Wife got a kickin' job that pays a lot. |
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I can't multi table any tournaments.
I feel blind when I can't see my opponents and their little mannerisms. I can't talk to them into revealing their hands. |
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[ QUOTE ] Live Bad additions. Often have great extra expense w/hotel and meals out. There are not many that you are physically able to enter/ On Line Good additions. Huge number of tourneys available make ROI easier to realize. Comfort of Home play makes stress of playing easier to handle. Bathroom breaks have a much shorter line. Your wife can sub if you need to play catch outside with your son. [/ QUOTE ] lol. Ive had my wife sub when the bowels came a callin' [/ QUOTE ] You need a laptop with wireless internet. I have played many, many hands from the crapper. |
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You need a laptop with wireless internet. I have played many, many hands from the crapper. [/ QUOTE ] |
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ONLINE BAD Can't read players. I prefer live personally and have done better live. Thoughts and reasons why one is better than the other? [/ QUOTE ] sounds like you answered your own question. i prefer live, bc players are less fearless. its easier to bully tables when your sitting there (at lower buyins at least). Online good: hand histories. multitabling. |
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I can't multi table any tournaments. I feel blind when I can't see my opponents and their little mannerisms. I can't talk to them into revealing their hands. [/ QUOTE ] Doesn't mean it doesn't belong on the list. By that logic nothing should be on there because there isn't a single thing on there that holds universally for all players. |
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True that.
I just played my first live multi here about 4 weeks ago. For those that don't know, Florida's SnGs are $45 buy-in. But it's not what you think. It is $32+13. Yes that's right! I didn't stutter, and it's not a typo. With a rake like that, people still do SnGs. Some people do 4 or more a day!. Payout is $200 and $120, BTW. |
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I didnt say it shouldnt be on the list, I said I can't do it because I'm too....
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Live Bad: That dreaded tip envelope at the final table.
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LIVE GOOD 15-30 min rounds ONLINE BAD 9-15 minute rounds [/ QUOTE ] A 10 minute round online is very close to a 20 minute round live. More importantly most live structures, especially at lower (sub $100) buy ins, are very fast many times doubling each round. Online the rounds are generally much more gradual (e.g. 10/20->15/30 instead of 10/20->20/40). To make matters worse I've seen many live tournaments start you with less than 50bb, whereas online tournaments generally start at 50-75. When it comes to structure, online wins hands down. |
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good point.
Personally I think my hand/player reading ability live outweighs the bads. I have played many online and live tournaments and I do far better live. I have final tabled maybe twice online ever, placed 2-3 times in the chump change, out of about probably 50 MTT tournaments. Live I have final tabled 3 times playing 15 MTT. About 5 were BULCRAP tournaments that I forgot to check the structure. 1500 chips 50/100 starting blinds. I poop on those tournaments. |
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Really? The ones I play are generally $150 buy in with the house taking 20% 30 min rounds with 4000 chips. Is there better? Please inform, please do. BTW I am moving to Baltimore after my house sells here in Fort Lauderdale. AC is 3 hours away woohoo! Wife got a kickin' job that pays a lot. [/ QUOTE ] Where do you play with this structure? I haven't found anything remotely close and I thought I had tried just about every MTT locally. I'm in Davie and would love to find a structure like this - it would certainly change my feelings about live tournament structures here. |
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