Can you lay this down?
 

Dealt to Hero [ 3d Jh ]

Im in the SB on the first hand of a sit n go so its only 5 more to me, obviously i call as im 2/3 the way in.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, Ts, Jd ]

The villian bets 65 and i raise to 165 with 2 pair. He proceeds to go flat all-in. What do you do? Results and thoughts later.

Re: Can you lay this down?
 

against K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] you're a slight dog. I think you got the best hand now, if you want to gamble a coin flip its up to you, but you could probally get your money in with a surer thing.

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What level? $10 and under I call. J8 wouldn't surprise me.

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J8 wouldn't surprise me

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Isn't JT more likely?

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Isn't JT more likely?

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It's more reasonable, but I don't think it's necessarily more likely in a Party $10 SNG. KJ is a good possibility too.

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KJ is a good possibility too

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And how about AJ? Or do you think that would have caused a raise pre-flop?

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And how about AJ? Or do you think that would have caused a raise pre-flop?

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Yes, I was thinking an AJ would have been raised PF.

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I doubt he has 2 pair or even AJ .. I put him on a draw .. OESFD

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Yeah he could be on a draw too. I would say just an OES or flush draw, not necessarily both (if this is a low buy-in). Either way, you know hero had the best hand on the flop and got sucked out on, cause that's the way most posts go. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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During my thought process i figured JT was really the only hand that beat me, or he could have a pair with a flush draw. In the end i did call hoping he had either AJ or 10-3 or just a random flush draw that would miss. Ill post results and final thoughts tomorrow.

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I can't lay this down at the $10s or $20s. Perhaps I should be willing to lay it down at the $20s, though.

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Dealt to Hero [ 3d Jh ]

Im in the SB on the first hand of a sit n go so its only 5 more to me, obviously i call as im 2/3 the way in.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, Ts, Jd ]

The villian bets 65 and i raise to 165 with 2 pair. He proceeds to go flat all-in. What do you do? Results and thoughts later.

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Your first error was playing J3 offsuit. Who cares if it's only 5 more chips. You flop 2 pair or better only 2% of the time, and when you do, you can lose all your chips to a better hand.

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Im in the SB on the first hand of a sit n go so its only 5 more to me, obviously i call as im 2/3 the way in

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I am noticing that it is thinking like this with hands like these that cost me alot of chips very unecessarily.
I would not complete this blind if the pot gave me five chips back, think about it, what do I need to flop besides the perfect flop, that I am happy or reasonably confident with?
If a J hits how can I put any chips into the pot with zero kicker? and the same goes for the three, second lowest card in the deck with a weak kicker. So unless JJ3, 33J or something equally unlikely and fantastical hits the board, I am in all the trouble there is.
It isn't so much the fact that it is only costing another five chips that should be important here but rather how many chips can I loose with this hand should I flop something that isn't perfect.
So, I dont know if I can lay this hand down. Frankly, I would like to think I can and would because I could clearly be in trouble here, and that isn't where I want to be on the first hand of a tourney, so rather than be in these spots....I will opt not to play these types of hands.

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i tend not to complete the bb with a hand like this. but completing isn't horrible. and busting out on this flop isn't horrible either. on a party poker 10 +1, chances are you're way ahead. i agree with the range of hands talked through earlier, indicating probably top pair and good kicker.

i'd call.

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When i am the small blind in first level of low limit sit n gos i almost always come in, especially if i am suited. I should have given some more info and said there was something like 5 limpers behind me as well. Also, if i were to flop top pair jack i wouldn't feel a thing folding, but i just couldn't lay this down to some PP retard who may have only a flush draw, or even something worse.

In the end i called, and he did show me the only thing i thought he could have to beat me, J-10.

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I agree with Turk. Fold this PF. If you want to complete the BB in this scenario, you'd rather have connectors, T3 sucks.

Second of all, you pretty much have to call this. You flopped pretty much what you were hoping for. As stated before, a pair of Ts on the board is better, but 2 of a kind is just as good.

IMHO, you bet enough of these and lose, you'll begin to see the light and fold PF.

Scuba

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That sucks. What buy-in was this?

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This was a 30+3 on PP. Maybe i should be folding this because i know for a fact i can get my money in when i have a more sure hand, but in a small buy-in PP tournament they could have almost anything and i just could not fold it.