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Joe Torre is thinking of moving Jeter or A-Rod to CF to replace Bernie Williams. Interesting. link

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not interesting. never gonna happen.

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Red Sox were rumored to be thinking about a similar move w/ (now traded) top prospect Hanley Ramirez.

Also, there are rumors that Nomar could be a centerfielder soon (or, gasp, a 1B).

as for this move, if it means they don't give Johnny Damon $50 million, I'm all for it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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You mean like how 2 years ago there was no way A-Rod would be willing to play 3rd base?
I think Jeter would be the more likely one to be asked to move to CF. He respects Torre enough to say yes if asked.

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You mean like how 2 years ago there was no way A-Rod would be willing to play 3rd base?
I think Jeter would be the more likely one to be asked to move to CF. He respects Torre enough to say yes if asked.

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Meh. I think Jeter is more likely to move to CF b/c he'd prob be better at it, not because he'd do it. The article mentions his over the shoulder catch ability and his arm..

I think either guy would move, if asked. But respecting Torre has nothing to do with it, IMO.

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I had thought moving Jeter to center was something that would happen when Bernie petered out. Of course, the Yankees would then need a shortstop or third baseman. Isn't it easier to come up with an outfielder?

Torre's playing it smart: "That's happened before, hasn't it? Bobby Murcer, Mickey Mantle. Hank Aaron came up as a second baseman. Robin Yount went to center field."

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Red Sox were rumored to be thinking about a similar move w/ (now traded) top prospect Hanley Ramirez.

Also, there are rumors that Nomar could be a centerfielder soon (or, gasp, a 1B).

as for this move, if it means they don't give Johnny Damon $50 million, I'm all for it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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50? i heard damon was asking for something even more ridiculous for a 7 year deal...

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Im more worried these days that the Yankees will sign Brian Giles for 30 mil/3 years. YIKES.

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Im more worried these days that the Yankees will sign Brian Giles for 30 mil/3 years. YIKES.

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Yeah, that would be a horrible move considering he is neither young nor a center fielder nor a leadoff hitter. Flash is going to leave too. That will also suck.

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Giles will be 35 this year. He's not quite the player he was in his prime, but he still had an OPS of .906 and walked 119 times last year while hitting .301. His power numbers are down from his big years in Pittsburgh, but hitting in Yankee Stadium would help. He's certainly a far better option than Bubba or Bernie.

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Do they have any prospects left on the farm to swing a deal for Juan Pierre? The Marlins seem ready to scrap the whole ball club again.

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Giles will be 35 this year. He's not quite the player he was in his prime, but he still had an OPS of .906 and walked 119 times last year while hitting .301. His power numbers are down from his big years in Pittsburgh, but hitting in Yankee Stadium would help. He's certainly a far better option than Bubba or Bernie.

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The guy can hit and get on base, for sure. But he's not a center fielder, esp not in Yankee Stadium. That's my gripe.

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I'd much rather have Giles than Pierre. Pierre doesn't walk much, has no power, and gets caught stealing far too much for somebody with his speed. .680 OPS last year. One Womack is enough.

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I guess he plays right field? I suppose they could put Matsui in center. Hey, we won two World Series with Jackson, Rivers, and Piniella in the outfield, Giles, Matsui and Sheffield couldn't possibly be worse. And you put in Crosby for defense in late innings.

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the prospect they have is Eric Duncan, i played with him on travel teams. hes a 3rd baseman and although his minor league stats arent great i am sure he will be a good player in the majors.

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I'm not sure that OPS is a great stat to judge a leadoff hitter, but I think your other points are valid.

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I'd much rather have Giles than Pierre. Pierre doesn't walk much, has no power, and gets caught stealing far too much for somebody with his speed. .680 OPS last year. One Womack is enough.

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He also has a [censored] arm, worse than Bernie from what I hear.

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I guess he plays right field?

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Yeah, supposedly either corner. And don't get me wrong, the guy is a very good hitter, a professional, to be sure. But the money plus the Giles doesn't solve our major problems thing plus his age makes me skeptical.

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Hey, we won two World Series with Jackson, Rivers, and Piniella in the outfield, Giles, Matsui and Sheffield couldn't possibly be worse.

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We had better pitching then, no?

I don't know. It sounds to me like they're either going ot move either ARod or Jeter or go with Crosby and try to deal for a Cameron or something. Again.

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Am I the only one who doesn't hate the Giles deal as much as everyone else? Bernie and Brown are dropping off the payroll, and if they don't make any other big deals they won't have given up any prospects and won't spend that much this offseason. The team can afford it, they havent made any other big FA deals yet.

Giles is >> Sheffield in RF, no? It would also let us DH sheff which could be very helpful, since sheff is old and slightly creaky.

as for jeter in CF... who knows. what a mess that is. if they make that switch, who will play SS and 3rd? its not like jeter will be better in CF, seems like robbing peter to pay paul, it doesn't make that much sense unless we have another all star SS coming in... "LOL".

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If Giles is coming in as the RF so Sheff can DH, fine. But I thought Giles was coming in as the CF. Also, if Sheff DH's, Giambi plays every day??? That doesn't sound good. I thought a 1B was on the wish list as well....

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Am I the only one who doesn't hate the Giles deal as much as everyone else? Bernie and Brown are dropping off the payroll, and if they don't make any other big deals they won't have given up any prospects and won't spend that much this offseason. The team can afford it, they havent made any other big FA deals yet.

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The other reason you should hope the Yankees get Giles, is so the Blue Jays don't get him. That team is starting to look pretty good next year, and if they add a bat and another arm, they could be pretty tough.

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Offensively Giles is a stud. Watching him for the last 6+ years in San Diego. He also has that "it" factor when it comes to clutch hitting. There is a reason LaRussa has been trying to get him for years.

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uh, try 2 years + september 03

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"We had better pitching then, no?"

Well, Guidry went 43-11, so, I would say yes. (Maybe he can pitch next year?)

Speaking of which, I guess they're letting Gordon go? Who's going to set up for Rivera, me?

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Speaking of which, I guess they're letting Gordon go? Who's going to set up for Rivera, me?

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Flash wants a 3 year deal. Supposedly the Yanks are taking a hard line 2 year approach. I read the Phillies want to bring him in to close. Bah

So, yes, you. Maybe Farnsworth, who will be overpriced and not as good. This whole "lets be fiscally reasonable this year thing because we really screwed the pooch last year" might be really, really bad. OTOH, maybe we get stellar performances out of our starters who remain healthy all year and we get staright to Mo all the time. Hell, maybe Mo can even play CF too. You know he has the arm...

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Speaking of which, I guess they're letting Gordon go? Who's going to set up for Rivera, me?

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Flash wants a 3 year deal. Supposedly the Yanks are taking a hard line 2 year approach. I read the Phillies want to bring him in to close. Bah

So, yes, you. Maybe Farnsworth, who will be overpriced and not as good. This whole "lets be fiscally reasonable this year thing because we really screwed the pooch last year" might be really, really bad. OTOH, maybe we get stellar performances out of our starters who remain healthy all year and we get staright to Mo all the time. Hell, maybe Mo can even play CF too. You know he has the arm...

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great, farnsworth. so manny and papi can hit the ball 50 feet further out of the park. just great.

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People have been talking about moving Jeter to CF for years. Jeter would make a good CF, given his great range on pop-ups - he's one of the best shortstops on fielding popups.

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Jeter has a good arm, too. I also think he would be at least an average centerfielder, and perhaps even better than that.

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Jeter has a good arm, too. I also think he would be at least an average centerfielder, and perhaps even better than that.

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Jeter would most likely be well above average in center. I don't think the Yanks would even consider the move if they thought he'd only be average in center.

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not interesting. never gonna happen.

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You mean like how 2 years ago there was no way A-Rod would be willing to play 3rd base?
I think Jeter would be the more likely one to be asked to move to CF. He respects Torre enough to say yes if asked.

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though it was a surprise, arod's move was more likely, because he had to get out of texas. and there's noone he'd yield the SS spot for other than jeter.

before they make a move like that, you gotta consider the benefits of what that will accomplish. one : whoever moves to CF has got to be above and beyond replacement level at CF. i don't doubt that jeter and arod can be above average, but they are that much more valuable at their current/natural positions. second, whoever replaces the SS or 3B spot has got be above and beyond replacement level because they have to match that of jeter and arod. that's hard to do, since you are replacing the yankee captain or, alternatively, a two-time mvp. good luck to whoever gets that job (Eric Duncan?).