Brand Spankin\' New Glock 19
 

I just bought a Glock 19. I've fired numerous handguns in my attempts to figure out what I want to purchase, and I finally decided on this weapon.

Does anyone have experience with the 19 (or similarly, the 23?) Does anyone carry one concealed? After the requisite training, I plan to get myself a concealed handgun license - frightfully easy to obtain in this great state we call Texas.

I intend to use this weapon for home defense/personal protection. I'm not a cop, though I am ex-military - though that probably accounts for less than you'd expect, as I never handled a pistol in any sanctioned capacity in my time in.

Did I make a good call?

Edited for pic of chicks kissing:
http://home.casema.nl/hottie/upd-02-11/2big.jpg

and a pic of (someone else's) Glock 19:

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/Glock/G19.jpg

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You're pathetic.

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Good call on the chicks kissing + gun photo thread. Nice choice of content.

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Well since you want it for personal protection, I would have probably gone with .40 (model 23) or .45 (model 21). I'm not a huge fan of glock but I love the Springfield XD although you probably tried one during your search. It is all up to how you feel, the glock is a nice gun and if you felt most comfortable using that then it is a good buy.

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my gun is bigger than yours.

http://www.airgeneral.com/Ironsides%...Big%20Guns.jpg

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i dig the gun but i would have gone w/ the .40

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I bought a 19 for the wife of a gun clueless co-worker. 19's are perfect for women. It'll probably suit conceled carry fine.

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yes i carry handguns concealed sometimes...i prefer my desert eagle though...can be a bit of a kick though - they have a few models that are great for concealing

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You made a bad call.
Real men sort their problems out in the art of hand-to-hand combat.

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Before I consider writing a response to all you awesome people who are so badass with your guns, one of you answer this:

Name one situation that you think a gun will help you in and I'm curious about the area you live in.

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Before I consider writing a response to all you awesome people who are so badass with your guns, one of you answer this:

Name one situation that you think a gun will help you in and I'm curious about the area you live in.

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just stay out of gun threads dude.

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This is an open statement to all the anti-gun nuts that will deluge this thread:

STFU. You have no idea how real life works. Just because you can't see in your sheltered little life how anyone could possibly need a gun doesn't mean you know everyone's situation. There are situations and lifestyles that warrant gun ownership and some situations where it would be downright dangerous to be unarmed. Get a life and stay out of the gun threads.

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You don't think there's any correlation to the amount of guns in the populous and the amount of deaths/murders?

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This is an open statement to all the anti-gun nuts that will deluge this thread:

STFU. You have no idea how real life works. Just because you can't see in your sheltered little life how anyone could possibly need a gun doesn't mean you know everyone's situation. There are situations and lifestyles that warrant gun ownership and some situations where it would be downright dangerous to be unarmed. Get a life and stay out of the gun threads.

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I'm definitely gonna stay out of this thread after I respond to this.

hahahahahaahahahahaha lol lol, rofl, etc etc etc

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Before I consider writing a response to all you awesome people who are so badass with your guns, one of you answer this:

Name one situation that you think a gun will help you in and I'm curious about the area you live in.

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To kill someone before they kill me. USA

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what makes me "LOLWTFOMGBBQ" and so on is the gun control types open up a thread about someones new gun and feel compelled to preach like some newly dipped evangelical. Do gun freaks go into your thread about buying a new volvo? Prolly not.

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what makes me "LOLWTFOMGBBQ" and so on is the gun control types open up a thread about someones new gun and feel compelled to preach like some newly dipped evangelical. Do gun freaks go into your thread about buying a new volvo? Prolly not.

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what's wrong with volvos?

No one respond to my posts please
 

I apologize for hi-jacking this thread. Continue your discussions.

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what makes me "LOLWTFOMGBBQ" and so on is the gun control types open up a thread about someones new gun and feel compelled to preach like some newly dipped evangelical. Do gun freaks go into your thread about buying a new volvo? Prolly not.

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what's wrong with volvos?

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Nothing. Mostly hippies in my area drive them.

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Hippies can afford Volvos? Must be some of those business-hippies.

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I have a gun I take on trips. If my car breaks down in the middle of knowhere, and I have my daughter, I won't be defensless against some random freak. To deny their (freaks) existance is foolish.

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Before I consider writing a response to all you awesome people who are so badass with your guns, one of you answer this:

Name one situation that you think a gun will help you in and I'm curious about the area you live in.

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i really feel that a gun helps me out when i go shooting at the range.

Re: Brand Spankin\' New Glock 19
 

I'm thinking of picking up a 17.

It appears that this is the smaller equivalent for concealed carry, so you made a good choice in my opinion.

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I keep my Glock 29 in my car.

http://marina.fortunecity.com/harbour/347/10h/g29.jpg

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Good choice, I have the .40 cal compact one (27 I think). It's a nice ccw weapon.

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Great gun. Just make sure you put good hollowpoint ammo in it. Full Metal Jacket 9mm is not a good man stopper, but a quality 9mm hollowpoint or expandable is. Also, put night sights on the gun if you don't already have them.

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I've already got hollow points in it, and the night sights are on the way as soon as I have time to get the weapon to my local armorer.

I put serious thought into the .40, but for some reason, I preferred the 9mm, even though the weapons are identical. I'm sure I'll end up with a .40 eventually.

About the 17 - yeah, the 19 is just a more compact version of the 17. The 26 (I think) is an even smaller version than the 19... only a 2 finger grip unless you get the magazine extenders which basically function as a +2 and a pinky grip. It may be the .40 model... I dont quite recall and dont feel like googling it. Either way, the 26 looks just like the 29 posted above.

All in all, I'm quite satisfied with my choice. And I'm not even gonna address the anti-gun crazies out there [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Tony said it best.

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Very good choice. The 19 is a solid gun, particularly if you plan to carry concealed at some point. The slightly shorter length compared to the 17 makes for easier concealment, and won't affect the accuracy significantly.

Personally I prefer .40 as others have mentioned, but I certainly would not feel underpowered carrying a 9mm. Look around for some quality hollow point ammunition, like Federal's Hydra-Shok or Remington's Golden Sabre. Also, make sure you practice enough with the defensive ammo, as it will shoot somewhat differently from cheap practice ammo.

All in all, good purchase! If you want more information go to the end-all Glock message board, Glocktalk

Swede

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Great gun. Just make sure you put good hollowpoint ammo in it.

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I've tried several kinds and my 29 does not like hollow points. It jams. For that reason, I'm using wadcutters. Whatever round you decide on, make sure you put a lot of that exact round downrange with your gun to make sure they don't cause any problems for it. We wouldn't want you to find out the hard way that the expensive rounds you bought for self-defense and never fired jam at the wrong time. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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You don't think there's any correlation to the amount of guns in the populous and the amount of deaths/murders?

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switzerland has a very very high gun/people ratio, but few murders. basically 'there are a bunch of savates in this country' to paraphrase clerks. there may be a correlation over time in the US but other factors are certainly at work. (actually, there is a correlation between legalized abortions via roe v. wade and the decrease in crime rate in the 90's.)

I would read freakonomics, there is a chapter in there dealing with causes of crime level and some of the underlying factors and how they measured the effects of each

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I've shot my friend's 19 quite a bit. Nice gun. Never a hitch for him or me at the range or out plinking in the woods.

I've never liked the look of Glocks -- too boxy and squared for me. I prefer my Beretta 92fs which I've put around 6K rounds through at this point. It's all a matter of personal preference though and you have a nice gun so enjoy it.

And to the people who say you should have got a 40 or 45 ... just ignore them. For personal protection a 9mm will rule over a 45 for most shooters in terms of accuracy. Plus the 9mm is a ton cheaper to shoot which means you'll probably shoot it more and be better with it in the long run. As for the 9 vs 40 ... ack. Taking velocities in account the impact difference is negligable. Either caliber is fine.

Oh and I have both a 40 and 45. And I do shoot them.

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Before I consider writing a response to all you awesome people who are so badass with your guns, one of you answer this:

Name one situation that you think a gun will help you in and I'm curious about the area you live in.

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just stay out of gun threads dude.

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I'm definitely giving this one three cheers. And this is even before I read Goblue's asinine "rebuttal" to Tony Paladino.

Some people just suck.

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I love 45's, but do agree on two major virtues of the 9 that shouldn't be overlooked, though it's all too easy to do so. First, it's easier for the average person to handle and handle accurately. Second, the ammo is cheaper. Which leads to what's almost a third -- you're much more likely to practice with it when you know it's not going to cost you an arm and a leg. And that's very important.

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You don't think there's any correlation to the amount of guns in the populous and the amount of deaths/murders?

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I'm not quite sure how this applies. I think the current numbers go something like this: there's one gun in the USA for every person. The fact that I own one doesn't change those numbers - it just puts me in a much less powerless position when faced with a nutjob who has one of the 250 million other guns in the USA.

Its not the people with the permits and the training that you need to worry about. Even if we're gonna take it to the extremes, and start talking about crazy milita people with AR-15s and 150 guns each, they're still a whole lot less responsible for the murder rate than the (generally) poor street criminals are. They know how to use their guns, how to store their guns, what permits they need to carry their guns. And they're more likely to do things by the book, because they know the consequences if they don't.

Most of the crazy anti-gun contingent focus on the wrong people. Their idea is that guns are bad, period. I'm quite liberal in most of my politics, but the "bad guys" are armed, and I'm damn sure gonna be armed. Call it paranoia, but we don't have to look too far back in recent history to find a time where being armed gave you a huge advantage over being unarmed. To use a cliche... when guns are outlawed, only outlaws... yeah.

There's a saying I've heard many times, and it seems to ring true: "An armed populace is a polite populace." Stop concerning yourselves with the people who do it right. Start worrying about - as Rusted Corpse put it in another thread - the kid who bought a gun from his local dealer and is intent on showing everyone how "gangster" he is.

Lastly - swede, I found Glocktalk before I made any purchases, and I count that as one huge resource that I'll use from now until eternity. I read a lot about Kahrs there, but damn if that gun didn't kick a lot when I fired it. I couldnt keep the groups tight enough. Damn things were tiny [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] So, the 19 it is.

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I have a 19-C. Aim is a bit low and to the left, but other than that, its a decent handgun. It carries well conceiled but make sure you get a good holster. Mine tended to shift too much.

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Yes my point was too vague. Bottom line is I personally don't think that guns could help in any situation much (at least around where I live). I respect your right to own a gun, however it would make me feel more comfortable if less of the people around me had guns. That is all.

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Before I consider writing a response to all you awesome people who are so badass with your guns, one of you answer this:

Name one situation that you think a gun will help you in and I'm curious about the area you live in.

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Lib alert Lib alert....whoop whoop whoop!

Hates the idea of killing anyone / anything... unless it is an unborn child of course....

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Before I consider writing a response to all you awesome people who are so badass with your guns, one of you answer this:

Name one situation that you think a gun will help you in and I'm curious about the area you live in.

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Lib alert Lib alert....whoop whoop whoop!

Hates the idea of killing anyone / anything... unless it is an unborn child of course....

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Hey - dont be like that. I am painfully liberal... and own several handguns. I also served for 10 years in the army. Please dont lump all liberals in with the whiney civil rights babies that we're so commonly equated with.

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Heheheh.

Remember, masturbation is murder!

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Can someone tell me what the laws regarding guns are in the US?

Can you just go buy a gun, or do you need a permit/licence first?

Do you have to go through any training to be allowed to own one?

Are there rules to state how you store it and where (ie. in a gun safe or something), or can you have them laying around wherever or in your car?

edit: and for the guys who carry them around concealed, what do you have to do that have that privaledge? And do you actually carry it around everywhere you go?