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5/10 live in LA. 3 handed. We each have 1.5k. Others are not good. I'm opening a lot.

I raise to $30 on the button with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB folds, BB minraises to $60, I call.

Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Check, check.

Turn 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He bets $30?, I call.

River K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

He bets $50?, I make it $200.

He calls.

He has AA.

I almost just called on the river.

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bet flop, lose less? I'm coming out to LA in december. Let's hit up (read: rape) that LATB game.

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Maybe. He bets flop I lose more.

Done.

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Was there anything to read besides his minraise preflop that didn't make you think you could take down a huge pot against a hand like AK? Maybe I missed something, but I really see myself betting at this pot a little more. Perhaps villain was the aggressive type to only bet if he didn't hit the board hard? Either way, nice job not losing a huge pot.
-Ace

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You played this hand absolutely horribly. You should have lost a lot more money than you did.

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You apparently play online.

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You should've bet the pot on flop and turn trying to get it allin asap

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Eh, it was live - that's all you can really say I guess. If I had any technical argument for any of it, it would be that I think AK bets the flop there nearly always, and if he had QQ or KK, I wasn't going to make any money off him on the flop. Once the K hit, and I saw the way he bet it, I figured I'd kill myself if I just called the river and he happened to show me top 2, but whatever. His non-raise on the river was the main reason I thought the hand odd.

To that other clown - I didn't post this as a "look how good I play, I could've lost a lot more" thing - Just a weird hand.

I sometimes post things that happen live that feel a little different. This was one of them, although it's really not all that interesting.

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You online guys rule.

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captZEE is kinda his own breed...
i cringe at his advice generally, but im told he wins alot. whatever.

im an online guy and i prob wouldve just called the river.
PF and flop plays are obviously correct.

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Ok the clown will speak up. Actually I play a mixture of live and online. I play at Commerce at least 2 days a week. That being said, you still lost too little money. I do not think you necessarily needed to "get it all in as fast as possible". But at some point before the river you need to see where you are at. Checking the flop and calling the turn gives you no information. Yes the preflop minraise is scary. Were there any limpers before you raised? A minraise heads up is even more scary, but a min raise with limpers could just be Pot Building 101 as the locals like to say. But unless this was the first hand this guy has played in 20 orbits and you KNOW he has AA, KK, or 10 10, you need to get some information here. Hence my comment that you should have lost a lot more than you did.

FWIW, he played the hand even worse. The way he played the hand you could very easily have QJ. He couldn't raise the river.

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I know he's a good player - I was just needling.

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So there were no limpers in between. But you still couldn't automatically put him on a higher set. I am just curious why you didn't bet somewhere before the river to try to glean some kind of information.

and wtf was the villain doing?

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I dont know how many times I have been in a similar spot, only to find out "I like you kid, that's why I didn't raise you". It is almost like an old regular that just wants to keep the game 100% friendly.

I guess "It's live" says it all...

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The thing is, at no point in the hand did I need to "find out where I was", I essentially knew where I was. That said, I'm not folding to his 1/4 pot turn bet, nor his 1/3 pot river bet - maybe I should have.

My river raise was dumb.

Had to be there I guess.

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I guess knowing thy opponent is key. I think it comes down to respect. There is a lot more respect for other people's play live. Online there is none. I think you have to be able to look at someone to have respect.

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There are a lot of online players whose play I respect a ton.

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quit nigga, im blushing.

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i cannot create a private table right now

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point taken. That being said, how many of you would take this line online without having the person sitting in front of you? I think it really does make a huge difference.

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