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CT11 07-06-2004 04:00 AM

Low limit in Vegas
 
I'm going to Vegas Aug 30th and I wanted to know what poker rooms there are. I'm used to playing .5/1 on party poker so I'd rather play as low limit as I can find.

Where are the best card rooms (as far as worst players are concerned)? I'm willing to play 3/6 if I have no choice but I'd rather not unless the games are really easy to beat. Even so I'd me most comfortable at a lower limit.

So where should I go? I'm staying at the Monte Carlo if that is a factor.


~CT11

bellzz 07-06-2004 04:27 AM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
The Monte Carlo 2/4 is SSSOOOOFFFFTTTT!. Just play good cards and hope not to get sucked out. When I was there I didn't play any 4/8 (because I didn't have 300BB yet at that level) but I bet that game was soft too.. They usually have a half kill in some of their 2/4. In hindsight I should have played as high as I could go! Please don't flame! One must be able to look at bets as just chips...not money!

btw...I would just play in the evening...I went down at about 7:00AM and there wasn't a soul in the cardroom. Dunno when to head down there... 5PM to 8PM??. I think about 3:00AM or so is when it all starts to break up. Just good players left (I guess I had to leave then wink).

I don't have experience at other card rooms there.. Visit LA..those games are softER!

I have recently posted a question about equivalence from online to B&M in this forum. In my experience...I haven't found a game that I was scared to play in at B&M. (obviously I have to move up eh?)

If you have some cash...go for it! Play the 4/8 game at MC. If you just want free drinks play the 2/4 and get loaded.. believe me...you can STILL clean up. btw.. order 2 at a time.


Bellzz

CT11 07-06-2004 05:56 AM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
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When I was there I didn't play any 4/8 (because I didn't have 300BB yet at that level) but I bet that game was soft too..

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This also reminds me. How much money do I bring? I'm not looking to play in B&M regularly so I dont think 300BB applies to me (I hope not).

I'm going as a vacation with a coupple people who aren't going to gambel or play poker (if you make the distinction--which I do.) So my play time is limited to maby 3hrs-5hrs a day for 3 days.

Thanks!

~CT11

steamboatin 07-06-2004 06:57 AM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
The rule of thumb is 25 times the big bet for a buy in. Most people buy in for a rack of white ($100)at a 3-6 table. Which is less than 25 times but it seems to work out fine. You need enough that you can afford to wait for decent starting cards and also to be able to get away from a losing hand when you are beat.

Ilovephysics 07-06-2004 07:24 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
Ok, in Vegas here are a few options for really low limits:

1) Luxor has a $1-2 game after Poker lessions at 2 pm. Probably the cheapest game you'll find, and you get about 30 minutes of lessions just so you don't look foolish if you've never been to a casino poker table before. They have some cheap NL tournaments as well which may be good to help you get up to speed.

2) Excallibur has a 1-3 spread game. I don't care for the casino (smokey), but apparently, they also have some low dollar NL stuff as well.

3) Flamingo/Luxor/Imperial Palace/Palms/Binions have regular $2-4 limit games. Binions/Palms were the nicest poker room to look at of these, and may be worth the cab fare if you are staying on the strip just to see them anyway... but alas, yes, cab fare may be about $20-40 round-trip, which will probably eat substantially into poker winnings..

4) Mirage has low dollar satellites (~$20) for their NL tournaments which should give you good cheap practice. The regular low tables I believe are $3-6. Mandalay Bay and Bellagio are commonly at $4-8 as I recall.

5) I'd say at $2-4, you probably need to put down no more than $100. Most places have a minimum of about $40, but that probably is too low since one bad beat will knock you down about $20-30 even at $2-4. I think $100 will last you quite a while at these limits... and should cover a few bad hands.

d_wrek 07-06-2004 07:33 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
If you're staying at Monte Carlo, play there. The 2/4 is soft, the staff is good, and it's a cool room.

jayadd 07-06-2004 08:27 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
micro brew at the MC IS SO GOOD..
300bb in a B&M is crazy for low limit.
if you need 1200 for a weekend of 2-4 need to find a new game of choice.

BigBaitsim (milo) 07-06-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
Excalibur had the squishiest games, and was spreading a 1-3 spread limit game with just one blind of $1. Very soft, with 7 or 8 seeing the flop. Once they limped, they were incapable of folding to a raise preflop. I hate smoke, but did not find the room too smoky. They spread a 4-8 with blinds of 1 & 2 the night I was there, and the game was about like the Party $.50/1 (as opposed to the 1-3, which played a bit closer to play money games online).

The 3-6 games at Mirage were soft, but way too many retiree rocks during the day.

As others have said, 25 BB is a good rule of thumb for a buy-in, but must bought into the 3-6 for a rack of blue ($100).

BigBaitsim (milo) 07-06-2004 08:36 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
I brought $2K for my three days of 10+ hour a day play (mostly 3-6 & 6-12) for me and 3 days of 2-hour a day play for the wife. It was way more than enough. At 2-4 and 3-6 I would say you don't need to bring a whole lot. One thing, you might find yourself playing more than you intend. Time flies at the table, and if you have a very soft game with a couple major fish, you won't want to get up until they leave or bust out.

gregdillon 07-06-2004 10:47 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
The Flamingo is nice if you are a non-smoker.

justin D 07-06-2004 10:59 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
Im making my 2nd trip to Vegas, on August 9th, and found a pretty good website that talks about all the vegas poker rooms, and comps they offer. I am no way affiliated with the website, but it has alot of usefull info.

http://www.pokerupdate.com/lasvegas.htm

gabyyyyy 07-06-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
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I'm going as a vacation with a coupple people who aren't going to gambel or play poker

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Why the hell would someone go to vegas and not gamble?

Tell your friends to stay home, they really sound like party poopers.

CT11 07-07-2004 01:07 AM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
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I'm going as a vacation with a coupple people who aren't going to gambel or play poker

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Why the hell would someone go to vegas and not gamble?

Tell your friends to stay home, they really sound like party poopers.

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Yah I was as confused as you are, seeing as it was their idea. But they have every day planned out so it should still be fun. Were splitting up for part of the time.

~CT11

balt999 07-07-2004 01:18 AM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
If you don't mind playing down to 2/4..try the Golden Nugget...worst players I ever saw....my girlfriend killed the game for 40BB on Monday afternoon...so you can imagine the type of action it has on the weekend...

deacsoft 07-07-2004 01:25 AM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
I spoke to Annie Duke on UB about a week ago and she said the Bellagio is her favorite, but loose games are everywhere.

Oblivious 07-07-2004 04:19 AM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
There arent many places that spread her 80/160 game other than the bellagio.

Regarding the Monte Carlo... When i went to vegas last spring, i initially went on a bit of a losing streak ($100). I went to the Mirage to play a bit of 3/6 and won in a rather tough game (reletively speaking). Instead of going to the hotel room like i was supposed to, I stopped in at the Monte Carlo at 2:30 am. I sat down at the 2/4 game and noticed that EVERYONE had a beer nearby. Another interesting thing i noticed was that i appeared to be the second oldest person at the table... there was one old guy in his 60s or 70s, and I was 23 at the time. So the monte carlo is definately soft, especially around spring break. Have fun.

solring 07-07-2004 02:51 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
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Why the hell would someone go to vegas and not gamble?

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I know this is heresy, but my first trip to Las Vegas (before I started playing poker regularly) was in 2001 and the only gambling over the three days was slot machines while waiting in line for various entertainment/shows. The wife and I saw four shows - Lance Burton, Jubilee, Mystere, some other magician.

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I'm used to playing .5/1 on party poker so I'd rather play as low limit as I can find.
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I'm staying at the Monte Carlo if that is a factor.

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I'm also a .50/1 player on Party. I was in LV this past weekend and played two sessions of 2/4 at the Monte Carlo. The room was tight, but the dealers and players were fun and felt like the typical Party table. The first time I heard the dealer says "7 players" when he/she was laying out the flop, I had to make sure I was playing live and not online.

I, and most everyone else that played, bought in for one rack ($100).

wm r the rake 07-07-2004 03:18 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
monte carlo has a soft 2/4 game there.....when you get there make sure to have them put your name on the list and after 4 or 5 hours you will get a comp for $6 to use towards food....also if you feel comfortable try and play the 4/8 there...the blinds are 1/2 with a half kill....just as soft as the 2/4 game there

RydenStoompala 07-07-2004 03:27 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
Besides playing in your own hotel try a number of others. You'll be in a great location. Just print the list of Vegas poker rooms, take it with you and tour around until you settle in at a good game.

jayadd 07-07-2004 03:35 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
Micro brew at MC is great you can order it in the poker room.

harrv 07-07-2004 07:44 PM

Re: Low limit in Vegas
 
I'll be staying at the Las Vegas Hilton at the end of July. Anyone ever play there?


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