Post your set hands...
 

and I'll criticise them for the next couple hours. Put them in this thread.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

Villain is LAG

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.67 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 10.67 BB.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

15/30 Hold'em (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.66 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.33 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.33 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.33 BB

Surf

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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Villain is LAG

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.67 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 10.67 BB.

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Perfect. Not raising the flop against a LAG would be a crime. VNH.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

Hi Surf-

Maybe this isn't supposed to be a thread for general comments, if so, you can delete mine. I'm someone surprised, however, that you aren't popping the turn or the river. Villain's play is consistent with either 2 pair, an overset or a flush draw. Problem is, with that ace hitting on the turn, it's less likely he went wild without the nut flush draw. It seems that we see two pair or a drastically overplayed top pair/KK more often than a set, so I'm wondering why you don't pop the turn, especially as it makes him pay more if he's got a naked spade.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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15/30 Hold'em (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.66 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.33 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.33 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.33 BB

Surf

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It's close. I think you need to put in another raise. (Was this 6-max or full) The 6-max games are insane in terms of agression sometimes. The problem is his range is very wide here. Could have something like Q8 or even KK. The fact that the A comes out on the turn makes it slightly less likely that he was getting out of line on the flop with a flush draw. It's also 3 handed and I'm not sure I have ever not put in more than 2 BB on turn + river with a set.

I think raising the river and folding to a 3-bet would be a good line. I think raising and calling a 3-bet would be okay. I think just calling might be a very similiar in EV to raising and calling a 3-bet.

Interesting hand.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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It seems that we see two pair or a drastically overplayed top pair/KK more often than a set, so I'm wondering why you don't pop the turn, especially as it makes him pay more if he's got a naked spade

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Popping the river is better because sometimes hands that beat us don't 3-bet and we give ourselves the chance to fill up. No hand that leads that turn won't lead the river.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

Taggy villain.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, <font color="brown">CO raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="brown">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="brown">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="brown">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="brown">Hero bets</font>, <font color="brown">CO raises</font>, <font color="brown">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="brown">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="brown">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.16 BB

Re: Post your set hands...
 

[ QUOTE ]
Taggy villain.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, <font color="brown">CO raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="brown">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="brown">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="brown">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="brown">Hero bets</font>, <font color="brown">CO raises</font>, <font color="brown">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="brown">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="brown">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.16 BB

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AA 3 ways
KK 3 ways
AK 9 ways

You are ahead 3/5ths of the time assuming he plays AK this way. I like the river check call. Leading the river just gets a call from AK and a raise from AA, KK. Checkraising and folding to a 3-bet might be fine but your edge in a baysian sense isn't large enough to warrent it IMO. Nice hand.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

my favorite line.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

villain is loose and passive preflop around 38/7 - no postflop reads


Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: (2.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (8.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

Re: Post your set hands...
 

i raise and cap the turn. call riv if he leads and bet/call if he checks.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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villain is loose and passive preflop around 38/7 - no postflop reads


Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: (2.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (8.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

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Perfect. Not many choices. Basically impossible to get more than 4 bets here.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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and I'll criticise them for the next couple hours. Put them in this thread.

Krishan

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Gimme some multiway. HU are much easier to play.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

i think i just call his turn raise and call a river bet. flop checks scare the [censored] outta me.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

sets are easy to play. just throw a ton of money in the pot.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

No read on villain. Raise flop? I figured he may fire again on turn with nothing and with a draw he will call anyways.

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.17 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6.17 BB.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 27.70 BB


Villain is unknown. I think the river cap is bad against any sane opponent.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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i think i just call his turn raise and call a river bet. flop checks scare the [censored] outta me.

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Boo, even if you only put JJ and AA, KK in the mix, I think a you have to go 3-bets on the turn. Factor in random bluffs and I think it's fine.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

thats what im tallkin about.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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No read on villain. Raise flop? I figured he may fire again on turn with nothing and with a draw he will call anyways.

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.17 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6.17 BB.

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Fine. If he has a bluff or trash, waiting is good. If he has a draw, waiting is good. No preflop indication of a strong hand. Unlucky the K is a scare card. Nice hand.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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15/30 Hold'em (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.66 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.33 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.33 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.33 BB

Surf

[/ QUOTE ]OMG MAN.
you should be giving waay more action here unless you know something we dont.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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i think i just call his turn raise and call a river bet. flop checks scare the [censored] outta me.

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Boo, even if you only put JJ and AA, KK in the mix, I think a you have to go 3-bets on the turn. Factor in random bluffs and I think it's fine.

Krishan

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plus AJ dipshittery

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 27.70 BB


Villain is unknown. I think the river cap is bad against any sane opponent.

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Perfect. River cr is great. River cap is fine too in my mind. Back door flush came in. KTs is at least as likely as 22. Add in JTs, AJs, (unlikely I know), and I think the cap is fine. I wouldn't 4-bet here if there was a 5 bet cap.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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sets are easy to play. just throw a ton of money in the pot.

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I'm just waiting for someone to post a hand where they, "protect" their set in a small pot on the flop. Apeshit isn't even the word.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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i think i just call his turn raise and call a river bet. flop checks scare the [censored] outta me.

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Boo, even if you only put JJ and AA, KK in the mix, I think a you have to go 3-bets on the turn. Factor in random bluffs and I think it's fine.

Krishan

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plus AJ dipshittery

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ok, in real life i 3bet here and if capped checkraise the river. then i feel like a total idiot and wonder why i have 50bb swings every day.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 27.70 BB


Villain is unknown. I think the river cap is bad against any sane opponent.

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Perfect. River cr is great. River cap is fine too in my mind. Back door flush came in. KTs is at least as likely as 22. Add in JTs, AJs, (unlikely I know), and I think the cap is fine. I wouldn't 4-bet here if there was a 5 bet cap.

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]I really just wanted an excuse to post my bad beat from yesterday. He had 22 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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i think i just call his turn raise and call a river bet. flop checks scare the [censored] outta me.

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Boo, even if you only put JJ and AA, KK in the mix, I think a you have to go 3-bets on the turn. Factor in random bluffs and I think it's fine.

Krishan

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plus AJ dipshittery

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ok, in real life i 3bet here and if capped checkraise the river. then i feel like a total idiot and wonder why i have 50bb swings every day.

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CRing the river would be spewing.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

kurosh, i just wanted to say again how [censored] awesome this hand is.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 27.70 BB


Villain is unknown. I think the river cap is bad against any sane opponent.

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Perfect. River cr is great. River cap is fine too in my mind. Back door flush came in. KTs is at least as likely as 22. Add in JTs, AJs, (unlikely I know), and I think the cap is fine. I wouldn't 4-bet here if there was a 5 bet cap.

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]I really just wanted an excuse to post my bad beat from yesterday. He had 22 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I saw before you edited. Don't be results oriented.

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

That hand sucks. I lost. Here's a good one that demonstrates why you should fastplay big hands:

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (15.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23.70 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Th Ts (four of a kind, tens).
Button has 5d 5h (full house, fives full of tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 23.70 BB. </font>

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 27.70 BB


Villain is unknown. I think the river cap is bad against any sane opponent.

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Perfect. River cr is great. River cap is fine too in my mind. Back door flush came in. KTs is at least as likely as 22. Add in JTs, AJs, (unlikely I know), and I think the cap is fine. I wouldn't 4-bet here if there was a 5 bet cap.

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]I really just wanted an excuse to post my bad beat from yesterday. He had 22 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I saw before you edited. Don't be results oriented.

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]It's not results orientated. I think a river cap is bad against a sane opponent. The board paired and I CR'd after he capped the turn. He should be very afraid of a boat. Two pair just got counterfeit. Flush draw won't cap the turn. I don't think straight would 3-bet after the board paired. Q2, J2 and 92 are not likely at all. JJ, QQ and 22 remains, all of which beat me.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

Villain is LAG. Does this hand suck?

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.00 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 7.00 BB.

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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I really just wanted an excuse to post my bad beat from yesterday. He had 22


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Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 19.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 3h 3s (four of a kind, threes).
Hero has Kc Kh (full house, kings full of threes).
Outcome: UTG wins 19.75 BB. </font>

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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I really just wanted an excuse to post my bad beat from yesterday. He had 22


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Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 19.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 3h 3s (four of a kind, threes).
Hero has Kc Kh (full house, kings full of threes).
Outcome: UTG wins 19.75 BB. </font>

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This is a dim-witted post;
The kind that we all hate the most;
A jumble of stats,
Or downswinging “Rats!”
Like a virus in search of a host.

If you are a good, winning player,
As opposed to a chip-spewing brayer,
Get back to the felt,
Play the hands that you’re dealt,
And soon you’ll be doing OKer.

Take my advice, please, you unthinking clod,
In the form of this good-natured prod,
This won’t help your game,
But will get you flamed,
Stop posting this crap! Where’s the Mod?

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 27.70 BB


Villain is unknown. I think the river cap is bad against any sane opponent.

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Perfect. River cr is great. River cap is fine too in my mind. Back door flush came in. KTs is at least as likely as 22. Add in JTs, AJs, (unlikely I know), and I think the cap is fine. I wouldn't 4-bet here if there was a 5 bet cap.

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]I really just wanted an excuse to post my bad beat from yesterday. He had 22 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I saw before you edited. Don't be results oriented.

Krishan

[/ QUOTE ]It's not results orientated. I think a river cap is bad against a sane opponent. The board paired and I CR'd after he capped the turn. He should be very afraid of a boat. Two pair just got counterfeit. Flush draw won't cap the turn. I don't think straight would 3-bet after the board paired. Q2, J2 and 92 are not likely at all. JJ, QQ and 22 remains, all of which beat me.

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How about KTs. I think JJ and QQ raise preflop. We can't totally discount them but I think the odds of those hands are just about even with random flush draw hands.

So if we are down to 22 and KsTs, since it's a 4 bet cap it's a wash.

KRishan

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Re: Post your set hands...
 

huh? why is your only raise pf? what am i missing?

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Villain is LAG. Does this hand suck?

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.00 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 7.00 BB.

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I raise the turn. A lot of time a bet like that is looking for action. A weak hand is going to bet/fold or check/fold but a strong hand is looking to bet/3-bet. Now he check folded the river so he didn't have anything this time but I think not raising the turn against his range of hands is a mistake. I like the flop call very much (drawless board is crucial).

Krishan

Re: Post your set hands...
 

This is my last set from yesterday. Opponent was 39/32/2.33 and tilting after 130 hands (i did not know the correct stats at the time, but i felt he was way out of line a lot).


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Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB




This one I think I played pretty bad on flop.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB