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09-15-2005 03:59 PM

\"Seat open\" pet peeve
 
Don't know if this bugs anyone else or if anybody's even noticed, but whenever I see a seat open up on a table I'm at and there's a waiting list, there's usually about 1 or 2 players at the table who get all bent out of shape if the seat isn't filled within a couple of minutes. They'll say to the dealer in a nasty tone "Hey you know we've got a seat open?" or even bitch to the floor person that the seat hasn't been filled. Meanwhile, 90% of the time the dealer is perfectly aware of it and has either already called "seat open" or is waiting for a floor person to get within earshot so he can notify them.

I swear, what's the big f'ing deal if a seat if empty for a few minutes. I don't see these people bitching when a player takes a 20 minute piss/smoke break. I just find it annoying as hell. Let the f'ing dealer do his job and keep your mouth shut. I swear, I've seen players sit at the table and play cards for 2 hours without speaking a word, but as soon as that seat opens up and isn't magically filled right away, they're cussing and pissing and moaning with the best of them.

Just a weird phenomenom that I've noticed. If anybody here is the kind that does this, please explain to me why, and do you honestly think that if you didn't say anything, the seat would never get filled? I've noticed it the most at Foxwoods, but that's an east coast crowd so you gotta expect some rudeness.

Patrick del Poker Grande 09-15-2005 04:10 PM

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BUT OMFG THE BLINDS ARE COMING! AND THE RAKE!

domester 09-15-2005 04:16 PM

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So, I'm not the only one that has noticed that! Drives me nuts, too. The only time such I think such harping is at all justified is when the game just started, isn't full and the list of names waiting hasn't been run through. (I'm an Omaholic, so it happens to my games regularly, what with the staff trying to keep their arms around all the people waiting to play hold 'em.) When the staff only makes a half-hearted effort to ensure that a non-hold 'em game goes, as if they really wanted it to die in order to create another hold 'em table, that really bugs me and I will join in the complaining then.

Patrick del Poker Grande 09-15-2005 04:32 PM

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It is pretty annoying. I actually don't mind when the table gets short if it allows me to change up my game and go from super TAG to running over the people who don't know how to play a short table. I'm no shorthanded expert by any means, but I atleast understand better than the typical donk and even this small edge really seems to manifest itself disproportionately at a short B&M table..

KidAkira 09-15-2005 04:32 PM

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I like seeing the opposite happen. Whenever the waiting list people ask if there are any available seats open and seeing all these hands shoot up in the air.

KramerTM 09-15-2005 04:45 PM

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but that's an east coast crowd so you gotta expect some rudeness.

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I am going to whine and complain incessantly every single time a seat opens up now in hopes one day you will be at my table and I can piss you off even in the slightest.

Jackass.

InfernoLL 09-15-2005 04:59 PM

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but that's an east coast crowd so you gotta expect some rudeness.

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I am going to whine and complain incessantly every single time a seat opens up now in hopes one day you will be at my table and I can piss you off even in the slightest.

Jackass.

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That's what he's talking about, acting unpleasantly towards everyone because you've invented some personal reason to be mad all the time. Why don't you just honk your horn everytime the car infront of you doesn't accelerate on a green light with superhuman reaction time. Oh wait a minute, you probably already do that...

Patrick del Poker Grande 09-15-2005 05:16 PM

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I like seeing the opposite happen. Whenever the waiting list people ask if there are any available seats open and seeing all these hands shoot up in the air.

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This is pretty entertaining, too. I really like when the action is on one of the old codgers who's so worried about the empty seat and it slows the game down because he's acting like a kindergartener raising his hand because he's going to piss his pants if he doesn't get to go to the bathroom pretty soon. It's especially good when there are two or three tables competing for the new player and the tables that lose the sweepstakes get all grumpy that they weren't picked.

09-15-2005 07:26 PM

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I've seen this behavior where ever I've played and I've played all over. I think it's the worst in LA. The dealers there get treated the worst of anyplace I've ever seen. I think players do this for a number of reasons, the blinds coming around being one of them, but it happens when I play stud also and there are no blinds there. I attribute it mostly to players who are usually unable to say anything about poker with authority and when they find something that they CAN comment on they do it.

I wait 5 minutes before I say anything to the dealer if I know there is a board and then I'll say something like "Do you know if a player has been sent?"

tonypaladino 09-15-2005 08:12 PM

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that's an east coast crowd so you gotta expect some rudeness.

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dick

bernie 09-15-2005 08:16 PM

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Notice that the ones that do this are very close to sitting out/leaving or doing something else to break up the game.

Annoying as it is, it's actually minor compared to other things that go on at a table.

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Seether 09-15-2005 09:48 PM

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Whats even more annoying is when your on a wait list for a game and have been waiting for 2hrs only to find out that an incompetent dealer never called the floor for the open seat when a seat has been open for 20mins.

bigfishead 09-15-2005 09:58 PM

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Thank You Daytripping.

I am a dealer and I see it all the time. Whats funny is I have the loudest voice in the Bellagio cardroom and these idiots don't notice that I have called the seat open. I usually also get a "heads up" from the floor or a verbal confirmation via microphone from them too. Your comments were right on the money.

AngusThermopyle 09-15-2005 10:34 PM

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Whats even more annoying is when your on a wait list for a game and have been waiting for 2hrs only to find out that an incompetent dealer never called the floor for the open seat when a seat has been open for 20mins.

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Or they are waiting for a "regular" to sneak into their game.

mosch 09-15-2005 11:39 PM

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Most people DESPISE playing shorthanded, and don't even like to be down 1 or 2 people.

A lot of these guys won't even get near a table until there are seven people at it. Anything less, and they suddenly have to take a walk for a few minutes.

PokerBob 09-16-2005 12:37 AM

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i think you will find that the more interaction you have with people, the more you will realize that most people should be killed.

09-16-2005 10:35 AM

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Whats even more annoying is when your on a wait list for a game and have been waiting for 2hrs only to find out that an incompetent dealer never called the floor for the open seat when a seat has been open for 20mins.

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09-16-2005 10:51 AM

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Most people DESPISE playing shorthanded, and don't even like to be down 1 or 2 people.

A lot of these guys won't even get near a table until there are seven people at it. Anything less, and they suddenly have to take a walk for a few minutes.

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No s*it... I think it's just a reluctance to have to play the blinds more often, even though that's completely irrelevant since you're odds of winning the pot on a given deal go up with each player that leaves. I think a lot of players just have a cheap streak running through them, which is really pretty funny when it's people playing 30/60 with a couple grand in front of them.

09-16-2005 10:53 AM

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I am a dealer and I see it all the time. Whats funny is I have the loudest voice in the Bellagio cardroom and these idiots don't notice that I have called the seat open. I usually also get a "heads up" from the floor or a verbal confirmation via microphone from them too. Your comments were right on the money.

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Loudest voice at Bellagio? I think I've played at your table before!

09-16-2005 11:12 AM

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Yeah, I noticed this as well. I don't see what the bid deal is if a seat is open for a couple minutes.

I remember one person at the table saying he wanted a full table so that the pot could be bigger. Are you kidding me? At minimum, a $2 bigger pot.

smarterthanyoda 09-16-2005 03:08 PM

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Whats even more annoying is when your on a wait list for a game and have been waiting for 2hrs only to find out that an incompetent dealer never called the floor for the open seat when a seat has been open for 20mins.

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Something similar, I was in a 4/8 game recently when one player left with his seat locked. When he didn't come back, the floor refused to pick up his single $1 chip because there was no board. It was middle of the day and after a while we were playing three short. The problem was, new players kept getting sent to the other table because our dealer always reported one less empty seat than we really had. This went on for an hour and a half until I complained to the brush and they started sending us players.

By the way, I'm not one of those that will complain whenever the game is 8-handed. But, we were down to 5-handed, and with a couple of rocks there just wasn't a lot of action going on. (Not that the othe table was much better.)

I'm not listing the name of this casino because generally they have some of the best employees anywhere. I consider it one of my top 2 in terms of management and dealers. This was just a situation where the floor made a reasonable decision that had unintended consequences. Still, it was frustrating watching fish after fish walk past us to the other table.

youtalkfunny 09-17-2005 02:33 AM

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What I like is when that seat stays empty for two hours, and then, when a new player finally approaches it, some nit pipes up, "I WANT THAT SEAT!"

Or better yet, when they act like they own the seat: "Don't sit down, son. I'm moving there once the button passes."

If I'm the new player, I take great pleasure in saying something like, "Look, you can have this seat, or the one you're in right now. But I'm not going to stand here for five more hands, so make up your mind."

Then they act grumpy, as if THEY were the one who was inconvenienced.


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