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pokerjoker 10-29-2005 01:40 PM

How smart are you?
 
This isin't a contest, I am just curious to see the what kind of intelligence winning SSNL (orMHNL if you read this) players have, please post a score if you read this.

Any standardized test is fine.

ACT=29 (Math=32)

PS I am aware tests do not exactly equal intelligence but its the best option I can think of

dtbog 10-29-2005 01:51 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
I like to think I'm a smart person. Who knows, though.

iceman5 10-29-2005 01:56 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
SAT = 1290....a long time ago [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Army entrance exam.....GT score I think they call it....125

10-29-2005 02:00 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
ACT 34 (Math 35), SAT 1440

PoBoy321 10-29-2005 02:04 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
A) This thread is useless
B) How is a standardized test any kind of measure of intelligence?

I don't consider myself a particularly intelligent person but I did pretty well on my SATs. I've known brilliant people who've done poorly on them.

ajmargarine 10-29-2005 02:13 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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A) This thread is useless

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I took them so long ago, I don't even remember anymore. Plus, I think the scoring's changed; so my stone age score isn't comparable to you young whippersnapper's scores. But OTOH, I am the doorman for the North Dakota chapter of Mensa.

10-29-2005 02:19 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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A) This thread is useless
B) How is a standardized test any kind of measure of intelligence?

I don't consider myself a particularly intelligent person but I did pretty well on my SATs. I've known brilliant people who've done poorly on them.

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I was actually hoping people would just ignore this post but...

Phoenix1010 10-29-2005 02:22 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

iceman5 10-29-2005 02:25 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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A) This thread is useless
B) How is a standardized test any kind of measure of intelligence?

I don't consider myself a particularly intelligent person but I did pretty well on my SATs. I've known brilliant people who've done poorly on them.

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I was actually hoping people would just ignore this post but...

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I love it when people think a post is useless or hope that people will ignore it, but then they feel the need to post in the thread anyway instead of ignoring it themselves.

Of course its useless, but so are half the threads on this forum. Within each thread, about half the posts are useless (like posting just to say this thread is useless).

Big deal. The guy is trying to have some fun. Ignore away if you dont like it.

TexArcher 10-29-2005 02:29 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
1280 SAT (with no studying and raging hangover)

Stanford-Binet IQ test (the real one, not the online crap that says everyone has an IQ of 130 or better) would be a better measure since it at least measures how quickly someone processed information.

pokerjoker 10-29-2005 02:35 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
1. If you think this thread is useless simply ignore it
2. I understand that being past about 20 your high school test scores don't mean anything really but Most of the posters here are college age or younger and I am just curious about this
3. David Sklansky said (trying to remember it correctly) that there is a direct coorelation between IQ and poker ability, (I think he said up to an IQ of 150).
4. I am really interested in people with lower scores, 'cause I am wondering if someone who is say in the bottom 60% could study poker enough to win consistantly online
5. I don't know how else to acurately poll intelligence quickly in a forum then using Standardized tests. I am not going to make a doctoral thesis out of this, just curous, so plz relax [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

10-29-2005 02:44 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
36/1480, but I'm probably in the lower 50% in poker ability compared to most of the regular posters. And I know people who did much worse on standardized tests and can take my money.

4_2_it 10-29-2005 03:04 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
GMAT --720

bills217 10-29-2005 03:24 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
SAT - 1520 (800 math)

ACT - 34 (35 math)

I'm still in the learning stage of poker however. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

10-29-2005 03:30 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
1520 (math: 800) and i suck a poker.

JaBlue 10-29-2005 03:31 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
when i was young, like 7, I had an IQ of 160 or something. its been all down hill from there intelligence-wise. I would like to think i'm at like 130-140ish right now but i don't know or care if I am. i did get 2160 (equiv 1440 or so?) on the new sat and 31 on the act while refusing to study for either.

afreeman 10-29-2005 03:33 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
I'd be more interested in knowing a commonly successful score for something like EQ.

I suspect that raw intelligence makes it possible for you to be a long-term winner, but something like EQ actually controls whether you are a long-term winner.

ryanghall 10-29-2005 03:47 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
I'm easily a long term winner and I did VERY poorly on these EQ tests.

Just because other peoples' emotions don't concern me as much as I should (for example), it doesn't make me a worse poker player. I'd say it makes me better.

I have a temper in life but I can control myself quite well when most people would tilt.

Poker is much different than other aspects of life.

Ryan

BobboFitos 10-29-2005 04:20 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
1390/135

stu-unger 10-29-2005 04:26 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
there was interesting article in cardplayer on this exact subject. they didnt go into detail about IQ or EQ test scores, but they came to the conclussion that intelligence does normally correlate with poker skill. i think that raw intelligence can only take u so far in poker.

1320/31, but i think i lack a lot of critical thinking skills that i think make people great poker players.

cracker9521 10-29-2005 04:26 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
ACT~31 composite
36 reading
36 english
26 and 27 in math and science dont remember which was which

It was the first and only time I took the test so if I couldnt do the math or science in my head or with simple calculations I just guessed thinking I would take the test again. Only IQ test I ever took was given to me in elementary school and I scored a 157. So supposedly I am fairly intelligent but i still suck at the poker.

ghostface 10-29-2005 04:42 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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FYP

Go_Blue88 10-29-2005 05:56 PM

This post is ridiculous
 
Here's why:

I think it's absurd to think that a really smart guy will beat small stakes poker by a much larger margin than a dumbass. The people with higher IQ's have a better chance at beating the high stakes games b/c there's a ton more complex concepts involved. Small stakes poker (ie up till NL 200) is very simple. You can do well if you understand simple math like pot odds, implied odds, and the concepts behind value betting. A person with a 33 on the ACT is not going understand these concepts any better than someone with a 23; they're extremely simple.

Once you understand the basic concepts, it comes down to your instincts and your ability to read players. Sure, higher intelligence might help you figure out a person's betting patterns, but people of lower intelligence are still perceptive. And even if you got a 36 on the ACT and are great at reading people, this many times rarely matters in games up till NL200 b/c there are so many morons.

Overall pt: The correlation b/w intelligence and rate you win at is only relevant/important in higher stakes.

10-29-2005 06:20 PM

Re: This post is ridiculous
 
I have a friend, the one who taught me how to play this game and is a consistent 6-8 bb/100 at 1kNL, who is not the smartest kid ever. He probably got under a 900 on his SAT, smokes weed all day but understands poker to a degree which I cannot understand. 1280 on SAT for me.

xorbie 10-29-2005 06:28 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
I got a 1600 on my SAT. What do I win?

excession 10-29-2005 07:00 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
I'm not sure many poker skills correlate that well to most intelligence tests...

I got three years ahead of my age group at school, but in the UK we don't have all these SAT/IQ test stuff, so I've no idea - smart enough to win at the levels I play at I guess [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Godfather80 10-29-2005 07:14 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I got a 1600 on my SAT. What do I win?

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My esteem, as you got the 10 points that I missed. And I still suck at poker.

10-29-2005 07:17 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I got a 1600 on my SAT. What do I win?

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My esteem, as you got the 10 points that I missed. And I still suck at poker.

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I got a 1600 too. They say people who get 1590s are more likely to get into college.

I also suck at poker but fing rock at taking standardized tests.

xorbie 10-29-2005 07:24 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I got a 1600 on my SAT. What do I win?

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My esteem, as you got the 10 points that I missed. And I still suck at poker.

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I got a 1600 too. They say people who get 1590s are more likely to get into college.

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I'd assume you mean into an elite college? I think the whole process was bullshit. Not because I didn't get into some schools I applied.. that's perfectly reasonable (only had like 3.6 in HS and didn't do [censored]), but because some of my very qualified friends were rejected from basically everywhere they applied.

pokerjoker 10-29-2005 07:46 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I got a 1600 on my SAT. What do I win?

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Did Noone read the 1st line of this post?

xorbie 10-29-2005 07:51 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
i was jokping

10-29-2005 07:54 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
I got a 1450 on my SATs, and a 169 on an IQ test a while back. I don't really beleive in the validity of either of those tests though.

BobboFitos 10-29-2005 08:14 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I got a 1600 on my SAT. What do I win?

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My esteem, as you got the 10 points that I missed. And I still suck at poker.

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I got a 1600 too. They say people who get 1590s are more likely to get into college.

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I'd assume you mean into an elite college? I think the whole process was bullshit. Not because I didn't get into some schools I applied.. that's perfectly reasonable (only had like 3.6 in HS and didn't do [censored]), but because some of my very qualified friends were rejected from basically everywhere they applied.

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the college process is a jopke

i didnt get into my top 4 colleges, and frankly, was bitter for almost 2 years.

-Skeme- 10-29-2005 08:16 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
Well, I did teach BobboFitos to use the potty.. so yeah, pretty smart.

BobboFitos 10-29-2005 08:17 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I got a 1450 on my SATs, and a 169 on an IQ test a while back. I don't really beleive in the validity of either of those tests though.

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no you didnt, im sure you could be smart, but 169 is almost 5 standard deviations above the mean. so... nope.

Godfather80 10-29-2005 08:20 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I got a 1450 on my SATs, and a 169 on an IQ test a while back. I don't really beleive in the validity of either of those tests though.

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no you didnt, im sure you could be smart, but 169 is almost 5 standard deviations above the mean. so... nope.

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Why say that? If he did get 169, good for him. If he didn't, who cares. Saying he's lying is uncalled for.

BobboFitos 10-29-2005 08:23 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I got a 1450 on my SATs, and a 169 on an IQ test a while back. I don't really beleive in the validity of either of those tests though.

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no you didnt, im sure you could be smart, but 169 is almost 5 standard deviations above the mean. so... nope.

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Why say that? If he did get 169, good for him. If he didn't, who cares. Saying he's lying is uncalled for.

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Fine, I'm the king of england, you must call me King.

AZK 10-29-2005 08:24 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
I didn't talk till I was 3. My parents thought I was retarded. They took me to a specialist who as part of the testing process, gave me several things to play with and then would ask me what they were/used for. She gave me a comb and I tried to eat with it and put it my mouth like it was a fork. She informed my parents that I was 'retarded' and would have severe learning defects and a rough childhood. When my parents asked her what prompted this, she talked about how she gave me a comb and I tried to use it as a fork and eat with it. My mom then explained how we didn't have any combs in the house. Explains my huge afro. from ages 2 - 10.

Voltron87 10-29-2005 08:38 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
uh, i dunno what the people who are complaining about the college admissions process are talking about. i had a bunch of ivy league schools pay for me to come visit their schools and try to recruit me, and then walk my hand through the application process. is it not like this for everyone?

also, 1410. but that was with no preparation when i was 14. i just used those scores, i never retook it. i imagine i would have beaten it easily with time to spare when i was 17 or 18.

10-29-2005 08:39 PM

Re: How smart are you?
 
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I didn't talk till I was 3. My parents thought I was retarded. They took me to a specialist who as part of the testing process, gave me several things to play with and then would ask me what they were/used for. She gave me a comb and I tried to eat with it and put it my mouth like it was a fork. She informed my parents that I was 'retarded' and would have severe learning defects and a rough childhood. When my parents asked her what prompted this, she talked about how she gave me a comb and I tried to use it as a fork and eat with it. My mom then explained how we didn't have any combs in the house. Explains my huge afro. from ages 2 - 10.

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lol. Actually, this is pretty much true for me, and I'm now finishing a Ph.D. at one of the best universities in the world.

Edit: I still think this whole thread is dumb.


Edit 2: As an academic who has taught many college students, I can tell you that standarized test scores mean absolutely nothing. They're simply a cheap/lazy tool that colleges use.


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