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Major mistakes I am unfortunate to take prolonged time to extinguish from my reportoare.

1. Having a big stack, but not great and the rock of gibraltar to my left with a low/medium stack. Me holding some medium pp Ax-x above T, unchallenged pot I bring it in for a raise in mp/lp and Gibraltar comes over the top. I flipp far to often. Is it worth it looking solely on pot odds knowing you have about even odds at best? My brain doesn`t correspond to well with my hand on mouse here
2. Trying some outrages play in the blinds against opponents who has me covered and are far to willing to flipp. When the pot holds something like 4K and my stack is 50K+. The left side of my head is near hairless.
3. Deciding that my image credits me far more then my hand, not realizing that my opponent has noe clue about image.
4. Taking aproximately 0,2 seconds to decide upon action that is devoting my entire stack.
5. Actually forgetting to ask my self" Now why would he bet like that?" And autopiloting the wrong answer

Just a few in a list that is all to long

Bring it on, what is your most reocurring/hard to get rid of mistakes that makes tourney life misserable far to often?

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For awhile I was actually making a list of these types of problems. But after awhile I decided I had two problems that happened way too frequently.

1) I was making moves on people to buy pots when they didn't realize they should fold and thought that bottom pair was a monster.

2) I acted too quickly when making a decision for all my chips (either pushing or calling).

And a bonus problem:

I cannot play 4 MTTs at the same time and be effective, even if I can play more than 4 SNGs and do well. They are different beasts that require a very different level of paying attention and getting into a rhythym.

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2 & 4.

Also,

6. labeling a player as a fish and inexplicably proceeding to play like one against him.

7. Being a weak-tight b***h by betting or calling a huge portion of my stack when I should be going all-in.

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i don't bluff well. I do it at random times when i decide this pot should be mine. I dont do it often, but when i do, it doesn't work, and i have absolutely no showdown value. Gotta stop that.

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My biggest mistake is I get bored quite easily and start playing hands I really shouldn't just because I need something to do.

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4 for sure.
Also acting too quickly without actually thinking long enough about how villain(s) have played the hand so far to come up with a better hand range for him/them.

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I am still too much of a calling station and don't put in a raise early enough to define my hand before my opponents draw out on me.

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my biggest leak is in blind defense. i'll call a 3 times the BB raise from CO or button more times than not and then when I hit top pair (with holdings of like J8o) on board of J62, I'm too ready to call or bet off most or all of my chips and don't give the PFR enough credit for actually having a hand. Then they turn over a big pocket pair like QQ.

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Not coming first.......ever!
Seconds, numerous, thirds yes.......but that god dam first place [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

I have decent profit on the year, but not finishing first has to be my biggest mistake.

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I sometimes give some players too much credit and others not enough. Lable people wrongly. Fail to realize that people I am playing against probably dont understand Pot Odds, Position, That bottom pair sucks 90% of the time, that a set to a flush or straight board sucks too, etc etc etc....I could keep going. Oh yeah, and that All-In is the only play since that is how its done on ESPN and WPT. Idiots!! Gosh!!

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I'm still way too weak on the bubble. I still severely underestimate most average stack and lower's - range of folding hands during this critical time. I look down and see 73s in the CO and I just cannot bring myself to push it all-in. It's counter-intuitive.
The 2nd problem I'm currently working on is loosening up my game a lit bit in the first hour. A month ago, my stack at the end of the first hour was SOLELY dependant on the amount of times I was dealt AA-1010 (and 99-66 from MP2 or later), AK/AQ and the outcome of those hands. I'm trying to tweak my game so that I have maybe 4-7% less ITM finishes in return for a larger avg. starting stack heading into the 3rd hour.

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Tilting. After a number of bad beats on the same day I lose all ability to play post flop and just jam way too many hands (which I lose in bad beats and continue to do so untill I drag myself to sleep).

Oh, and a recent problem I developed - calling re-raises with good hands (JJ-QQ, AQs-AK) when I have position so I can out play my opponent post-flop and not being able to let go when I'm obviously beat by a worst starting hand.

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my biggest leak is in blind defense. i'll call a 3 times the BB raise from CO or button more times than not and then when I hit top pair (with holdings of like J8o) on board of J62, I'm too ready to call or bet off most or all of my chips and don't give the PFR enough credit for actually having a hand. Then they turn over a big pocket pair like QQ.

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Bingo. Only make that holding 86o on a J62 flop.

Busting out after 3-4 hours after getting sucked out on sucks. But busting out after 3-4 hours because you got all in with second pair vs an overpair really sucks. You know its all your own fault.

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sometimes just the opposite is true. i'm stealing, BB calls. I hit top pair and BB already was playing a big pair and his check raise allin after the flop looks like he doesn't believe i had a hand preflop and has decided to look me up. I have hit top pair, I call and bam run into a huge pocket pair.

Perfecting my blind steals and/or blind defenses would be my biggest leak. And its not that i try to steal or defend too much, maybe on the average of once every 2-3 orbits.

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Oh I forgot. Being 2`nd or 3`d in chips, and deciding to get it all in with the chipleader. Just did in a qualifier. Virtually guaranteed a seat 3 more had to bust and their all at 4-8K stack, I have 22K, chipleader had 30. And I had to play my set to the end, even though I knew he sucked out on turn. PUKE,BARF and an obcene amount of norwegian faul language: [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Not being able to seperate how I got to certain stack size, from how I play it. 8xBB is 8xBB, regardless if I have been surviving card dead for the last hour, or I just donked off 3/4 of my chips bluffing a Q high.

On a similar note, I have no patience when I get short in the middle stages of a MTT. I have to start realizing that there is some value in limping into the money

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#1.) Raising someone's blinds so much that they hate me by the end of the tournament. Now that they hate me, they play back at me, and I lose big pots.

#2.) Long, drawn-out, elaborate bluffs that almost never work. Sometimes I get attached, and I can't let go, I'll c-bet, then plug the turn with nothing, then there's so much in the potby the river that I try "one more", and it costs me a huge pot or my tournament.

#3.) Reacting too quickly, must slow down before I click my mouse sometimes

#4.) Bullying with the big stack. The few times I am a big stack at the table, I get overly aggressive, thinking I can just run the table and go over the top of everyone.. this doesn't work when your opponent is unwilling to fold top or 2nd pair.

#5.) Raising small bets with nothing.. you know the weird 20% of the pot bets that people make online.. I've found more often than not they want you to call and they just don't know what they're doing.

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1) Managing to put my opponent on a particular hand, and then refusing to follow through on it. (i.e. fold/raise, etc)

2) Failing to pick the right time to fire the second shot.

3) Just because these guys are nimrods doesn't mean they don't have hands.

Those are my big three.

I used to have 4) FPS, but I think I've fixed that one pretty well.

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Not being able to seperate how I got to certain stack size, from how I play it. 8xBB is 8xBB, regardless if I have been surviving card dead for the last hour, or I just donked off 3/4 of my chips bluffing a Q high.

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three words: misperceived steal/ resteal

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3. Deciding that my image credits me far more then my hand, not realizing that my opponent has noe clue about image.

This one is a killer if you combine it with the following:

#2.) Long, drawn-out, elaborate bluffs that almost never work. Sometimes I get attached, and I can't let go, I'll c-bet, then plug the turn with nothing, then there's so much in the potby the river that I try "one more", and it costs me a huge pot or my tournament.

#5.) Raising small bets with nothing.. you know the weird 20% of the pot bets that people make online.. I've found more often than not they want you to call and they just don't know what they're doing.

Then this last one I do... even though they often are just bluffing it can be costly to find out.

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1) Identifying donkeys and calling stations, going card dead, and then trying to bluff the idiots with nothing when i get pissed at thier stack being 2x mine.

2) The "Dark tunnel bluff". Before bluffing lately i have been asking myself, "Is there anything on this board he could possibly be scared of to push him off his range?" More often than not the answer comes back 0...thus resulting in WAY less bluffs (i think my tourny results kind of mirror this in November).

3) Recognizing the players at my table that are WAY better than me and still playing hands out of position with them.

Tons more, but those are me biggest.

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1 TILTing. This is easily my biggest leak. Especially when I was once a big stack in an MTT, but after 3 straight suckouts I'm down to average or below average. I'm prone to just giving up and playing recklessly when I still have enough chips to make a comeback.

2 Patience. Another reason I don't do as well in MTT's as I should be. Sometimes I don't get a playable hand in a few orbits, so I get bored, and decide to make a "creative" raise UTG+1 with something like Q-5s...

3 Over-stealing, especially against a short-stack. Shorter stacks are looking to double up, and don't need much to call, but sometimes I'll ignore this and put them all-in with any two (this is a sound play if they are in the "dead zone and have literally nothing left, but I often mis-use it when they're still in high-red zone).

4 Trying to pick off bluffs too much at times, especially over-bets. When it works I look like a genius (I once called a big all-in with K-3off on board of A-8-7-8-A, putting my opponent on a busted straight/flush draw based on the betting patterns, which he did have). But sometimes tricky players are capable of checking a flopped monster two or three times, then overbetting on the end. If I have anything at all I tend to call.

Probably many more, which I can't think of right now.

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4. Taking aproximately 0,2 seconds to decide upon action that is devoting my entire stack.

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This has been my undoing so many freaking times. I wonder how much money I have missed out on by tubro jamming with the worst of it and not stopping to think.

Maybe in 2006.

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Do you really find those small bets represent a solid hand.

I have found that selectively raising these stupid bet amounts with air 3x or 4x to be highly profitable.

I'm going to start paying more attention. Perhaps I have
a selective memory. On the flip side they don't have to
work that often to be profitable either.

Bruce

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1. Ego. Attributing metaphysical significance to session outcomes. Which leads to

2. Tilt. Feeling victimized and furious on consecutive hands when my flush draw doesn't come and then my opponent's does. Completely illogical.

3. Listlessness. Lacking the disciple and fortitude to systemetize and operationalize what I learn from books and 2+2 Forum. Instead, read a few chapters, hop on-line and wing it.

4. Profligacy. Not realizing until it's over that I just bet 40% of my stack for information.

5. Absentmindedness. I just re-raised over the top against a rock. Maybe I should have checked my notes on him first.

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When my read on someone makes a play obviously correct and my hand makes the opposite play obviously correct if I had no reads, I tend to just ignore reads. Fake example: I have KK with ~25 BBs and raise 3x BB preflop. Super tight BB who covers calls. Flop is AAx. Super tight BB checks, Noah 5 BBs, BB pushes, Noah calls.

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1. Putting my opponent on a hand I can beat, rather than a hand he might actually have. ("His pre-flop raise MUST be AK, so with that flop my pocket sixes are good.")

2. Never using my time bank.

3. Trying to blast a calling station out of a hand.

4. Playing like a little girl when other players are min-betting. Raise you fool!

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1. Not following my read that the opponent has me beat, and continuing to call big bets on all 3 streets. (it especially hurts when you put him on the exact cards)
2. Calling big bets on the river out of curiousity, and not wanting to be run over.
3. Bluffing in the wrong spots.
4. Playing too many hands from EP
5. Acting too quickly