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PITTM 07-14-2005 03:36 PM

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I always thought the comments by Mike in last years WSOP were so overblown... When he made them it was nothing personal against raymer, they were battleing for table control and mike was trying to intimidate and rile him up... that backfired obviously as Raymer showed he wouldn't back down and pushed on a heavy draw... Mike made a bad call and the rest is history.


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Bad call why? Because Greg happened to make his flush??

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No, because Mike was a dog on the flop.

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oi vei. if there is a lot of money in the pot and someone goes all in, you have an overlay in the pot, as i remember greg was a 53% favorite, meaning mike was just a 47% dog when he could have bbeen getting 2.5:1 or so. aka notttttt a bad call at all...if he won we might be touting a different repeat champion :P

rj

PITTM 07-14-2005 03:37 PM

Re: Pic of Greg & Matusow After Play Ended
 
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What did Arieh say to Williams after he was eliminated last year?

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"Bust this motherfucker." I'm not sure if Raymer heard it at the time or not.

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Greg saw it on the TV broadcast and according to old threads I believe Greg indicated that he didn't take what Josh said personally and considers him a decent guy with ESPN assigning him the roll of the bad guy.

~ Rick

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No way Rick! You mean this whole 12-year-old's drama actually played itself out over a year ago??

You'd think it happened yesterday...

NEWFLASH KIDS: The events mentioned actually happened between adults and have been settled and closed long ago.

I doubt Greg will be waiting in the parking lot to beat-up Mike or Josh.

Please go back to class now.

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what is your problem? seriously, go lecture other people. if youre just here to whine and lecture people im sure you can find something better to do...somewhere else...

rj

RedRum 07-14-2005 03:46 PM

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There's a huge difference between losing your cool every now and then and taunting an opponent mercilessly after hitting your draw. There's a huge difference between saying "C'mon bust this guy!" and "Bust this motherfucker!"

I'm no prince, but I have never acted like that at a poker table. Ever.


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I usually play poker in the confines of a home game, so perhaps I'm coming at this from a different angle, but those things mean the exact same thing to me.

When it's a group of people in someone's basement playing and drinking, if I don't hear the infamous f-bomb once a minute, I think there's something wrong. No trash talk without obscenities is allowed or tolerated, unless you get really creative with fornication, various undisirable wildlife and probably a pitchfork.

That said, in a casino I've never uttered a word I wouldn't say to my mother.

Drink More,
RedRum

Lalit Khajuria 07-14-2005 03:49 PM

Re: Pic of Greg & Matusow After Play Ended
 
At least I cant, so I just have to throw a very long shot here.

I suppose mike is a jew.. during world war SS men were killing lot of jews, and S has been in many occasion replaced by 8 regarding this matter.

So whats the correct answer, I suppose it's something to do with drugs?

BlackAces 07-14-2005 03:51 PM

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At least I cant, so I just have to throw a very long shot here.

I suppose mike is a jew.. during world war SS men were killing lot of jews, and S has been in many occasion replaced by 8 regarding this matter.

So whats the correct answer, I suppose it's something to do with drugs?

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Probably something to do with an 8-ball of coke.

Punker 07-14-2005 04:07 PM

Re: Pic of Greg & Matusow After Play Ended
 
I was standing right beside the photographer who took that picture. It was a brief conversation about how many chips they each hand, nothing more.

michiganlaw 07-14-2005 04:14 PM

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hmm, if i were mike, i would have chosen a number other than 8 for my full tilt jersey

if you catch my drift

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That is too funny!!!!!!! No more 8-balls for Matusow...

Tyler Durden 07-14-2005 06:04 PM

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He definitely let his ego get in the way on that one... wtf was he doing in that hand with 97s anyways? Especially with Raymer raising so many pots preflop.

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Raymer was beating on Matasow's Blinds and Mike had enough of it. With their exchange and the constant blind assault from Greg I think he was steaming a bit thus leading to making a stand with the hand. If Mike had a cool head about him I think he makes that lay down.

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Actually if I remember right Matusow raised UTG or UTG+1 with 97s, Raymer reraised with AJs (yeesh), and it folds back to Matusow, who calls. Don't think Matusow was in the blinds that hand.

Matusow then checks to Raymer who pushes. Matusow freaks out then calls. then freaks out again.

But, I think you're right -- I think if it hadn't been Raymer he would have made the laydown.

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Matusow was in the 1 seat and Raymer was in 4 or 5. MM raised in LP and Raymer reraised from the BB.


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