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BigBrother 10-15-2005 02:12 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
Ever since I downloaded and started testing v2, my MTH v1 does not work anymore. I have them in separate directories. Anyone else have that problem?

v2 definitely seems slower and seems to use more resources.

Using MTH to 'highlight' the table, not move it...with 4-6 tables arranged on a 2001FP, I will get the audio cue that action is required, but have to wait 2-3 seconds for the red outline to highlight the table needing action. Also sometimes after my action (via keyboard) MTH stalls on that table instead of moving on to the next table.

Also MTHv2 seems to have lost the capability to show me how long since last action at a table (to find stalled tables and tell me to go get them back online).

OrcaDK 10-15-2005 04:53 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ever since I downloaded and started testing v2, my MTH v1 does not work anymore. I have them in separate directories. Anyone else have that problem?

v2 definitely seems slower and seems to use more resources.

Using MTH to 'highlight' the table, not move it...with 4-6 tables arranged on a 2001FP, I will get the audio cue that action is required, but have to wait 2-3 seconds for the red outline to highlight the table needing action. Also sometimes after my action (via keyboard) MTH stalls on that table instead of moving on to the next table.

Also MTHv2 seems to have lost the capability to show me how long since last action at a table (to find stalled tables and tell me to go get them back online).

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Try turning off the audio cue in MTH if you're using that one, i've had problems with that myself. The next release contains a function to move stalled tables (tables where you're either not seated, or is sitting out) to a specific location. That should make it easier to identify tables where you need to rebuy or need to take a seat, thus eliminating the need for a table showing when the last action occured.

OrcaDK 10-15-2005 06:14 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
Ok, a new version is out.

# Added keyboard control options
# Added option to move tables on which you're not seated / sitting out to a special location
# Added option for selecting where tables should go when using auto arrange
# Improved monitor detection
# Added option to force the active table to become topmost
# Added option for logging
# Removed option for playing sound when a table becomes active.

Please go to preferences and enable logging. Then run MTH for some time and see if there are still problems. If there is, please email me the log file with a detailed description of what went wrong.

This release is zipped, so there's no need for WinRAR any more. Also please note that there's now two files, the .EXE and a .PDB. The .PDB file enables the logging to be more precise. This file will not be included in the final release, and it's not necessary unless you want to provide me with detailed logging.

You can download MTH here.

OrcaDK 10-15-2005 07:45 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
Update.

# Added option to move cursor to the active table when it activates

You can download MTH here.

PrincipalSkinner 10-15-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
OK, I load up the new version, set the active table to go to the upper right quadrant of monitor2, stuff 2 party tables mostly out of sight in the lower left quadrant of monitor2.

I wait eagerly for the first hand.

Bingo, a table goes active and pops up into the top right quadrant of monitor1. OK, no biggie, I'm sure that can be debugged. At least now I can see the table when it moves--so far so good!!

It gets better--this very first hand I had automatically prepaid the big blind and see that I have been dealt KQ and the flop is KKQ. I can't believe it, and I can hardly wait as the play moves around the table to me. Here it comes! And then, when the action gets to me--POOF, the table disappears. Nothing to do but watch the blinking light in the bottom bar that says somewhere there is a table that wants to give me money, if I only knew where!!

Closed the site--I don't think I'm cut out to be a beta tester! I'll stick to version1 until people who know more than I do about computers have worked on this for awhile--Thanks, guys!

OrcaDK 10-15-2005 07:55 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
Sorry to hear that. Please send me the log file from that session to mark(add)improve.dk, i really don't stand a chance to find out what is happening without the log file.

PrincipalSkinner 10-15-2005 08:20 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
I don't know JACK about log files, but I seem to recall that there were instructions somewhere in the first MTH thread. I'll work on it tomorrow--it's the least I can do--thanks again for all you've done!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

OrcaDK 10-15-2005 08:31 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
It's in the new version. Enter preferences and turn on logging (at the bottom of the window). MTH should create a file called "LOG.txt" in the same directory as the MTH.exe file.

EDIT: Please be aware that this log file get's rewritten each time you start MTH, so it's important to save it after experiencing an error, before you restart MTH.

10-15-2005 10:25 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
I used it for about 40 minutes. Some problems:

1. Bet box entries using keyboard number keys, are not always communicated to the raise button (the default number stays on the button). When using the sliding bet adjustment, the button number changes appropriately. The error is inconsistent. I don’t see a pattern.

2. With Auto table on: Tables don’t have set locations(intentional?). That is, they go to quadrants, but not the same one each time.

3. While playing (5 tables), I turned off auto tables and tried to manually place the tables. This led to problems immediately: tables disappeared after being the active table (they would only return when active). I then closed mth and reopened it. This resulted immediately to an error (possibly the same as the one below). I hit “continue”, which led to the error below.

I will send you’re the error log, but don't have your email.

I guess I can't paste the screen shot of the error. I will send it also by email.

OrcaDK 10-15-2005 10:43 PM

Re: Beginning MTH v2
 
[ QUOTE ]
I used it for about 40 minutes. Some problems:

1. Bet box entries using keyboard number keys, are not always communicated to the raise button (the default number stays on the button). When using the sliding bet adjustment, the button number changes appropriately. The error is inconsistent. I don’t see a pattern.

2. With Auto table on: Tables don’t have set locations(intentional?). That is, they go to quadrants, but not the same one each time.

3. While playing (5 tables), I turned off auto tables and tried to manually place the tables. This led to problems immediately: tables disappeared after being the active table (they would only return when active). I then closed mth and reopened it. This resulted immediately to an error (possibly the same as the one below). I hit “continue”, which led to the error below.

I will send you’re the error log, but don't have your email.

I guess I can't paste the screen shot of the error. I will send it also by email.

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Thanks for testing!

1)
This is a "bug" that i'm experiencing often too. I really can't say why it's happening, and as you've experienced, there isn't really a notable pattern. My experience though, is that it doesn't matter. Even if the button doesn't update, it should raise the entered amount.

2)
The current algorithm simply finds the "most unused quadrant". That is it runs from quadrant 1 to quadrant 16 and checks how many tables are in each quadrant. It does ofcourse skip quadrants that are either out of the current monitor range, or that has been disabled. Then it checks which quadrant has the fewest tables, again starting from quadrant 1 going through 16. If it finds a quadrant with 0 tables, it'll use that one immediatly, and won't bother checking the rest of the quadrants.

The auto arrange feature was implemented with the though of people running a lot of tables with overlap. If you're running fewer tables it might be better to not use the auto arrange feature.

3)
Turning on / off the auto arrange feature is one of those changes that requires a restart. It should ofcourse not result in an error, but i will only take effect as the tables become active and not inactive again. When you say that the disappear, do you then mean outside the monitor, or just below other tables?

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Please do send me the log and screenshot of the error. My email address is in the "About" dialog in the Help menu.

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I've uploaded a new version of MTH. This version should be vastly improved regarding speed. download


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