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mostsmooth 09-10-2005 08:54 AM

Re: Putting Coke in Freezer to cool faster?
 
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im pretty sure if we put ice in a bucket of saltwater, it will be the same temperature as a bucket of regular ice water.


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I agree. What will occur is that if you then put the bucket of saltwater in a freezer the saltwater/ice solution would stay liquid at a lower temperature than a bucket of ice water without the salt. In other words saltwater freezes at a lower temperature but salt does not magically make ice colder, it only makes it melt faster.

This is called freezing point depression. For that matter sugar will accomplish the same thing.

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yeah, i know about what the salt (impurity) does.

M2d 09-10-2005 02:54 PM

Re: Putting Coke in Freezer to cool faster?
 
just put all the cokes into a bucket and shoot them with a CO2 fire extinguisher. game over.

-Skeme- 09-10-2005 03:14 PM

Re: Putting Coke in Freezer to cool faster?
 
They explode.

jman220 09-10-2005 04:03 PM

Re: Putting Coke in Freezer to cool faster?
 
7th Grade Earth Science: Energy flows from source to sink. There is less heat energy in a freezer than in a fridge. Thus the heat energy contained within the coke will flow faster to the freezer.

wacki 09-10-2005 04:10 PM

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I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of some science to shut them up.


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Time to cool:

Beer being spun (key) in ice water: 45 seconds
Beer in freezer: 45 minutes
Beer in fridge: 4 hours

Put money on it, wacki said so.

-the beer expert

wacki

jman220 09-10-2005 04:21 PM

Re: Putting Coke in Freezer to cool faster?
 
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ok, ill allow my possible retardation to shine through here. all of you who are saying to put the beer can into "salt water and ice" are then putting the salt water and ice into the freezer correct? otherwise somebody will need to explain to me why a bucket of saltwater and ice would be colder than a bucket of regular water and ice.

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The salt depresses the freezing point of water so the water can get much colder without freezing, and your beer is able to be submerged in a liquid colder than the freezing point of water .

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FYP. The liquid still won't be colder than the ice you put into the liquid to cool it in the first place. All the salt allows is for the liquid to reach a cooler temperature than normal without freezing.

Freakin 09-10-2005 04:33 PM

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I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of some science to shut them up.


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Time to cool:

Beer being spun (key) in ice water: 45 seconds
Beer in freezer: 45 minutes
Beer in fridge: 4 hours

Put money on it, wacki said so.

-the beer expert

wacki

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I used to have a device called a chill wizard that I got from value village. It was a small tub with a motor on one end. The motor had a suction cup attached to it.

It was worth every penny of the $2 I paid for it to take it home, resolder a wire, and use it frequently.

Lazymeatball 09-10-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Putting Coke in Freezer to cool faster?
 
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Mpemba effect

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That's it - couldn't think of it.

<- now forgotten nearly everything I've learned, and hard-pressed to bet 5 cents water is wet (which it really isn't very, BTW).

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Does this having any thing to do with the effect of Belgian soccer phenom Mpenza

http://www.egyptianplayers.com/assets/mpenza.jpg

garyjacosta 09-10-2005 05:14 PM

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I suggest you:

1. Start buying Cokes that are already cold
2. Put the damn things in the fridge a couple hours before you're ready to drink them, so you don't have to scramble for an idea on how to quickly chill them


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