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cjmewett 12-21-2005 09:09 PM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
More questions for TT, while I'm at it:

1. How do you feel about the Bachrach shoes with a tux? I'm already going through the miserable experience of renting a tux for a wedding and absolutely abhor the thought of wearing disgusting patent leather shoes. You think those ok for black tie? And no, I'm not gonna buy a tux right now, either.

2. With casual clothes (jeans and khakis) I almost exclusively wear brown Nocona bullhide cowboy boots. Occasionally I'll wear Asics similar to these, except in grey.

Regardless of your commentary, I'll continue to wear boots; having said that, I'm interested in fashion-guy's opinion about them. PS: I live in Dallas.

Wu36 12-21-2005 09:15 PM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
http://www.shanghaitang.com/shanghai...es/2C749J2.jpg

http://www.thepeoplesweb.com/tpw/Ite...71680_boss.jpg

http://pickyourshoes.com/images/shoe...wn_beige_3.jpg

http://www.passportmagazine.net/23/images/Movado.jpg

cjmewett 12-21-2005 09:18 PM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
No offense to the MANY who wear them, but I wish we could get over this whole Movado thing.

lapoker17 12-21-2005 09:23 PM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
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No offense to the MANY who wear them, but I wish we could get over this whole Movado thing.


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i thought it would be obnoxious to mention, as watches are often a factor of available monies, but you are correct. this is not a cool brand at all.

Jonny 12-21-2005 10:00 PM

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No offense to the MANY who wear them, but I wish we could get over this whole Movado thing.

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I personally like them because they have a clean look and are good quality. I don't like a watch with a million dials all over the front of it.

chisness 12-22-2005 12:56 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
does anyone have a suggestion for a dressier watch (wearable with suits) and to work and other formal things?

although bands are typically fanciest, i think i'd prefer an SS bracelet. also, i'd like it to be cheaper, perhaps a seiko, tag, omega, or similar.

Eurotrash 12-22-2005 01:14 AM

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Shirt and jeans: Banana Republic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...7/_MG_1789.jpg

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You are in decent shape, why are your clothes 3 sizes too big for your body?

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TT, I guess you may be exaggerating, but 3 sizes too big? are you implying that for people to be dressed nicely, they all have to wear some kind of blazer over a "clever" Vote 4 Pedro t-shirt that is so tight the nipples are showing along with a pair of jeans that clearly defines your junk?

rusellmj 12-22-2005 01:15 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
Princeton Watches is your friend.

The whole Movado thing is some guy made the first one as a piece of art to hang in a museum. They don't seem to be decreasing in popularity. I think the look of the gold one is worn out, but the SS one posted looks good.

chisness 12-22-2005 01:27 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
Thanks, how do you like either of these?

http://www.princetonwatches.com/imag...hes/SGF719.jpg

http://www.princetonwatches.com/imag...hes/PJ6011.jpg

rusellmj 12-22-2005 01:37 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
I'm a SS Black Face guy. I recently bought a SS white face Timex to see if I could make the switch. It's not working.

My pops has a Seiko pretty much identical to the top one although it's auto (another must of mine). He got it when he was 21. He'll be 70 in about 2 weeks. I'ts one of two watches I've ever seen him wear. Probably where I get my preferences.

chisness 12-22-2005 01:47 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
That Seiko is apparently Amazon's best seller and is only $55 there, so I'll probably pick it up. It's a nice dressier style that isn't at all gaudy.

obsidian 12-22-2005 01:55 AM

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Photos Photos Photos...

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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Yea, will do when I get home.

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What I wore today:
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/9311/blue4zi.th.jpg

Some things I picked up at banana republic:
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/7279/green0jg.th.jpg http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3013/grey6gu.th.jpg http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/4...hirt5it.th.jpg

As you can see I need help. Jeans are from Aeropostale. I am looking to head to Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus so anything you can suggest would be great. Shoes as well since I usually just wear some old running shoes since I'm a runner.

leehrat 12-22-2005 02:01 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
weight room and now. jeans later, no offense intended.

obsidian 12-22-2005 02:01 AM

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weight room and now. jeans later, no offense intended.

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None taken. Yes I know.

Eurotrash 12-22-2005 02:03 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
I'm amazed at how you managed to look exactly the same (as far as your pose/facial expressions are concerned) in all of those pictures


if I had to guess, TT is going to rip on how your clothes are too baggy and how your haircut looks like you did it by yourself, with a box-cutter, in the complete darkness

leehrat 12-22-2005 02:03 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
cool. after hitting the weight room, grab a quick protein shake and swing by nordstrom or nordstrom rack if there's one in your area. i picked up some seven jeans today and they fit pretty well, good discount too.

shant 12-22-2005 03:09 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
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TT, [...] are you implying that for people to be dressed nicely, they all have to wear some kind of blazer over a "clever" Vote 4 Pedro t-shirt that is so tight the nipples are showing along with a pair of jeans that clearly defines your junk?

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Switch the "Vote 4 Pedro" to an NWA t-shirt or an obscure graffiti artist's latest shirt and you pretty much nailed it.

Eurotrash 12-22-2005 03:33 AM

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TT, [...] are you implying that for people to be dressed nicely, they all have to wear some kind of blazer over a "clever" Vote 4 Pedro t-shirt that is so tight the nipples are showing along with a pair of jeans that clearly defines your junk?

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Switch the "Vote 4 Pedro" to an NWA t-shirt or an obscure graffiti artist's latest shirt and you pretty much nailed it.

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I feel like such a failure, then [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:02 AM

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they weren't cool then, and they are not cool now. OK... I lie. They are actually really cool, but the problem is that everyone who wears them doesn't know how to match their outfits so they look good - hence they are uncool.

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Can you give an example of what outfits would match with them so they would look good?

[/ QUOTE ]If you are Gwen Stephani you can rock DMs no problem. I don't think she hangs at OOT, so its probably safe to say Docs should be avoided unless you are very experimental in your fashion choices.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:03 AM

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OK I found 3 pairs I like

http://a1216.g.akamai.net/f/1216/955...rge/169851.jpg
G Star Raw Denim harrison jeans $150

http://a1216.g.akamai.net/f/1216/955...rge/157348.jpg
Mavi jeans $88

http://a1216.g.akamai.net/f/1216/955...rge/166276.jpg pure stuff isaac jeans $70

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Great, Great and Pretty Good.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:07 AM

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TT,

When it comes to getting shirts tailored, what should one expect to spend per shirt? And how does one best go about finding a good tailor, outside of giant metro areas like NYC? I live in a suburb of Dallas, and I don't really want to take my clothes to a random asian family to get tailored... an asian family about whom I've heard good things, fine, but I don't run in circles with people who need clothing tailored. I have a dry cleaner I trust, but they were recommended by a friend.

I'm 6'5, 185 - the photo I posted shows me in a decent slim sweater, but generally, my shirts are too big for my body. I end up having to buy shirts that are too big for my body because my arms are too long for a generic "medium," so I end up buying a generic "large," and wearing a damn balloon of a shirt that - thankfully - has arms that are long enough.

Aside from becoming less poor - something that I'm obviously working on - is finding a good tailor and getting my shirts properly tailored to my body a good option?

I feel like this post ended up being written completely backwards, but hey.

Thoughts?

yasher

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Good question, I always get clobbered by dry cleaners when I travel, I would assume its the same with tailors.

1) Find a dedicated tailor, not someone who operates out of a cleaners

2) Bring them photos of celebrities whose style you like, who also happen to be wearing similar cut suits (remember - color doesn't matter, and there are really only a handful of cuts available for the most part). Explain to the tailor how you don't want to look like every other suit/shirt they trim... how you want to look "Hollywood". I know it sounds stupid, but the dumb-ass with the needle and thread might get it.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:08 AM

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i wear levi 560 jeans and a white t-shirt i have owned for anywhere between 4 and 10 years. blue adidas shoes. rolex submariner watch (stainless and black). no belt.

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I like you Bob, but I can't grace this with a response. I think you have a lot of room for improvement though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:15 AM

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Wow, this thread is good.

If I could add one thing to TT's solid advice it'd be this: Get a a couple of real [censored] watches, people! I don't mean showoff brands like Rolex or Omega (although if you have the $$$, sure, why not), just well designed, high-quality mechanics/automatics. I admit, there are some creative designs among the non-brands, but 99% of the time you'll be better off with a watch-watch.

If you'd buy a car, wouldn't you rather buy an Mercedes than a no-name POS on wheels with a DKNY-logo?

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Actually most of those designer watches are made by one of three companies:
1) Casio
2) Fossil (the #2 watch manufacturer in the world)
3) Swatch (The #1 watch manufacturer in the world)

Here is a good tip[, don't buy a Rolex, get a Zenith (owned by LVMH) instead. Zenith has manufactured the internals for Rolex for decades (if I recall correctly), why bother wasting the extra dough when you can get the real deal for cheaper (theoretically)?

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:18 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
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More questions for TT, while I'm at it:

1. How do you feel about the Bachrach shoes with a tux? I'm already going through the miserable experience of renting a tux for a wedding and absolutely abhor the thought of wearing disgusting patent leather shoes. You think those ok for black tie? And no, I'm not gonna buy a tux right now, either.

2. With casual clothes (jeans and khakis) I almost exclusively wear brown Nocona bullhide cowboy boots. Occasionally I'll wear Asics similar to these, except in grey.

Regardless of your commentary, I'll continue to wear boots; having said that, I'm interested in fashion-guy's opinion about them. PS: I live in Dallas.

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I am clueless in the tux department, other than I know you should never rent if you can avoid it. Take a quick flight to NYC just to shop at Century 21, you can buy a stylish tux for under $400... they always have closeouts there for more than 75% off retail. Same goes for the shoes, sorry [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I have failed you.

Boots - those can be fun at times, but you will kill your feet in the long run.

Skips - I like the Asics, actually I'm rather surprised I do. Of course as with all fashion the answer is "depends", but solo its cool.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:19 AM

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http://www.shanghaitang.com/shanghai...es/2C749J2.jpg

No way dude... I don't belive you. I want to see a photo to prove it.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:20 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
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No offense to the MANY who wear them, but I wish we could get over this whole Movado thing.

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I second the motion. Its tired... time to move on. My magazine won't even accept advertising from them now, that says a lot.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:27 AM

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Photos Photos Photos...

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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Yea, will do when I get home.

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What I wore today:
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/9311/blue4zi.th.jpg

Some things I picked up at banana republic:
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/7279/green0jg.th.jpg http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3013/grey6gu.th.jpg http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/4...hirt5it.th.jpg

As you can see I need help. Jeans are from Aeropostale. I am looking to head to Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus so anything you can suggest would be great. Shoes as well since I usually just wear some old running shoes since I'm a runner.

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I'd follow Shant's style for the most part, he dresses very LA hipsterish. I think the #1 problem you got going on isn't the clothing however, its the hairstyle. Lift up the bangs, the Cesar look works for Comodus, but not for your face.

As another option, buy a copy of US Magazine (I know, yuck... even I don't normally stoop that low)and rip out some looks you like. Bring them with you to the store, find the hottest sales gal, and go to town. Make sure you bring your phone number (and new haircut)... because she will ask for it if you start spending - on this I can GUARANTEE (if you are shopping at Nordstrom's). She wants it for two reasons - you are now her best new customer and she will want to give you the best service, and (hopefully) you are now her best new customer and she will want to give you the best service. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 07:28 AM

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I'm amazed at how you managed to look exactly the same (as far as your pose/facial expressions are concerned) in all of those pictures


if I had to guess, TT is going to rip on how your clothes are too baggy and how your haircut looks like you did it by yourself, with a box-cutter, in the complete darkness

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Wow... I need a vacation, wanna take over?

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

chisness 12-22-2005 08:23 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
TT,

This is a fairly ridiculous suggestion you make here. I believe Zenith no longer makes the internals for Rolex and that it might've only been for the Daytona model.

I still think almost everyone cares more about the EXTERNALS of a watch though. Rolex provides timeless styles that justify spending a bit more.

A good tip would be not to get one brand just to get that brand (Rolex is probably huge here), but instead to figure out a price range and style and really do some research.

Yeti 12-22-2005 08:47 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
Obsidian - You look uncomfortable in your own skin. Smile and shoulders back.

Macdaddy Warsaw 12-22-2005 09:04 AM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
I think he was going for brooding.

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 11:20 AM

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TT,

This is a fairly ridiculous suggestion you make here. I believe Zenith no longer makes the internals for Rolex and that it might've only been for the Daytona model.

I still think almost everyone cares more about the EXTERNALS of a watch though. Rolex provides timeless styles that justify spending a bit more.

A good tip would be not to get one brand just to get that brand (Rolex is probably huge here), but instead to figure out a price range and style and really do some research.

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Got a link that states they no longer make the internals? This is information I received last year during a client brief. I think its a fairly good recommendation for someone on a budget yet still wants a signature time piece.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BottlesOf 12-22-2005 11:34 AM

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No offense to the MANY who wear them, but I wish we could get over this whole Movado thing.

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BottlesOf 12-22-2005 11:41 AM

Second watch
 
I'd like to get a "second watch." I rock my rolly nearly all the time and would like a cool second watch that's funkier, stylish, good for going out. I wanna spend like $200-$999. Ideas?

twang 12-22-2005 12:53 PM

Re: Second watch
 
I'd take a look at Marcello C. The most popular models are basically Submariner homages, but they have some more unique designs too. Hamilton Khakis are really nice too.

If the possible uncoolness of wearing a japanese brand doesn't scare you, I'd recommend Seikos. Their designs range from beautiful classics to absolutley [censored] up and everything in between. Plus they make their own movements, which is nice. IMO, nothing is even close to Seiko considering price-quality ratio.

chisness 12-22-2005 01:19 PM

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http://www.secondtimeround.com/cosmo...20history.html

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Rolex's latest addition to the Daytona hysteria was launched at the end of 2000. The 116520 which like the rest of Rolex's models has an extra 1 prefix to differentiate it from the others. There have been a few dial refinements but the main difference is the fact that Rolex are now using an in house movement instead of the old Zenith one.

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sfer 12-22-2005 01:57 PM

Re: A mission for you TT
 
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I got $100 gift card to Banana Republic. The website has extensive choices. I'm not a big fan of BR, but I'm sure I can find something. Instead, I want you to tell me what I need/can benefit the most from/will look good in.

Please present 2 or 3 options. Total cost $80-$130. Please avoid dress shirts and shoes.

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http://www.bananarepublic.com/Asset_...3-00vliv01.jpg - Just the jacket (not crazy about the rest of the pieces) - $99

http://www.bananarepublic.com/Asset_...5-00vliv01.jpg - $149. Its daring, wont be that common even though its BR.

http://www.bananarepublic.com/Asset_...7-00vliv01.jpg - Its a bit more expensive than JBB's budget, but its worth the extra investment.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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The cut on the overcoat is atrocious.

cjmewett 12-22-2005 01:57 PM

Re: *TT* rates OOT\'s fashion sense
 
TT, you never really said what you thought would be a more appropriate watch for the whole Savile Row look. This is an example of a vintage Bulova Curvex that I really like.

http://rs79.vrx.net/interests/watche...gf/gis52mm.jpg

Comments?

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 02:27 PM

Re: A mission for you TT
 
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I got $100 gift card to Banana Republic. The website has extensive choices. I'm not a big fan of BR, but I'm sure I can find something. Instead, I want you to tell me what I need/can benefit the most from/will look good in.

Please present 2 or 3 options. Total cost $80-$130. Please avoid dress shirts and shoes.

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http://www.bananarepublic.com/Asset_...3-00vliv01.jpg - Just the jacket (not crazy about the rest of the pieces) - $99

http://www.bananarepublic.com/Asset_...5-00vliv01.jpg - $149. Its daring, wont be that common even though its BR.

http://www.bananarepublic.com/Asset_...7-00vliv01.jpg - Its a bit more expensive than JBB's budget, but its worth the extra investment.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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The cut on the overcoat is atrocious.

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Atrocious is overstating it a bit, but for the price point (remember its a slinding scale) its decent and about as good as BR gets. Its not a long term keeper, but its a good second coat that will last a season.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Luv2DriveTT 12-22-2005 02:29 PM

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TT, you never really said what you thought would be a more appropriate watch for the whole Savile Row look. This is an example of a vintage Bulova Curvex that I really like.

http://rs79.vrx.net/interests/watche...gf/gis52mm.jpg

Comments?

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Nice. Timeless, classic. Alternatively you can also go retro-70's (even a timex old-school didgital watch might look cool), but I think your path is better.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


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