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TomBrooks 11-29-2005 09:30 PM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside
 
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Your folded to river bet is insanely high.

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I am also interested in getting an idea what the expected good range for 'Folded to River Bet' is expected to be. I think I may be 'Folding To River Bet' too much also. For Full Ring I an at 46%, for 1/2 Shorthand I am at 51%. I would guess that a lower range would be expected at Shorthand also.

Webster 11-29-2005 09:59 PM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats in
 
45% is ABOUT the norm from all the stats I have ever see.

Winning 50% at SD is WAY WAY low (somebody mention that).

solidswede 11-29-2005 10:22 PM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside
 
You are right it is not the only thing we should look at, but I think it can be an explanation of running bad/good.
With your stats I would guess the majority of your hands are at 2-4 or below.

timprov 11-30-2005 03:45 AM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats in
 
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Do me one favor go back and separate a block of 5k hands where you won less than 53% of your showdowns and still was beating the the game, then we will talk more.

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FWIW I have 68k hands winning 2 BB/100 and a W$@SD less than 50. You're assigning much too much value to this stat. Different styles are going to bring about different numbers.

solidswede 11-30-2005 04:11 AM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats in
 
That has to be at 1-2 or 2-4. I would be really surprised if it was at a higher game. Thanks for input.

timprov 11-30-2005 04:24 AM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats in
 
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That has to be at 1-2 or 2-4. I would be really surprised if it was at a higher game. Thanks for input.

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20k of it is 3/6 and 5/10. My win without showdown is very, very high.

solidswede 11-30-2005 05:22 AM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats in
 
I would think your showdown winning % is higher for the 20k hands?

Nikademus 11-30-2005 10:50 AM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside
 
I was in a similar situation as you, during the summer. Back in June, I moved up from .5/$1 to $1/$2. From then until October, I went nowhere. First half of every month, I'd make a profit, last half I'd lose it. I was getting frustrated. Then I started taking The Wookie Challenge.

I *highly* recommend this to you. Over the last two months, I feel my game has improved, and my bankroll is big enough that I'm moving to $2/$4 in Dec.

I think the key here isn't posting your own hands, but commenting on other's hands so your thought process can be reviewed by the rest of us here.

Bakerman7 11-30-2005 11:35 AM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats in
 
hand 1:
flop raise was nice put - gave you a free showdown. HU I would bet the turn after I was checked to. Maybye even here. Not too sure, though.

hand 2:
youre lucky to be in with a passive bunch here. The Flop-bet is good in my book (guess you cant count on a checkraise here, with these opponents). And further - you cant push these guys out, so I think checking is fine when you don't hit. Please tell me, someone had at least had a T...

hand 3:
only way to do it !. By the (any) book. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

adsman 11-30-2005 11:38 AM

Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside
 
I just want to say that Bob T's advice is what you need to be listening to here. You can post as many hands as you want but if you're riding the roller-coaster ride of, "my self-worth as a poker player is directly linked to my results", then it's going to be an extremely bumpy one. And this will continue to be the case even when you're techincally a better player than you are now.


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