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I think the river check screams missed hearts and that he'll bet any hand he has. bukkake ain't D-U-M and there ain't a stereo in sight.

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why would he bet here unless he thinks you'll call with missed hearts? there's just no point.

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You never bluff a busted draw when you suspect your opponent also missed, the pot is 5-7 BBs and you have zero showdown value?

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right but then what's the point of check-raising his bet? he'll only bet if he has no showdown value right?

just curious, excuse my noobish questions.

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I think the river check screams missed hearts and that he'll bet any hand he has. bukkake ain't D-U-M and there ain't a stereo in sight.

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why would he bet here unless he thinks you'll call with missed hearts? there's just no point.

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You never bluff a busted draw when you suspect your opponent also missed, the pot is 5-7 BBs and you have zero showdown value?

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right but then what's the point of check-raising his bet? he'll only bet if he has no showdown value right?

just curious, excuse my noobish questions.

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It both discourages him from bluffing and from value betting marginal hands (like A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]) on the river.

Rob

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I think the river check screams missed hearts and that he'll bet any hand he has. bukkake ain't D-U-M and there ain't a stereo in sight.

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why would he bet here unless he thinks you'll call with missed hearts? there's just no point.

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You never bluff a busted draw when you suspect your opponent also missed, the pot is 5-7 BBs and you have zero showdown value?

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right but then what's the point of check-raising his bet? he'll only bet if he has no showdown value right?

just curious, excuse my noobish questions.

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A hand like that isn't calling a river bet, and I have too much showdown value to call...

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why would he value bet a pair of threes or a pair of fives, especially if he has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?

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sorry i think i get it now.

so you're thinking he'll try to bluff you out of the pot and you can capitalize on that?

what if he 3bets you? can you fold?

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what if he 3bets you? can you fold?

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Sadly, empirical evidence suggests that the answer is no. He 3-bet, I called, he showed 53o the fcuker.

Turns out that the metagame me 6-betting him with the nut low back in March and him turbo-mucking bit me in the ass on this hand.

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hah. owned.

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Are you still in the bay area/

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Yup. The plan is one more night of poker, probably Sunday, very likely at Bay 101.

Help me convince jason_t to play 20/40.

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i will play at bay101 with you on sunday.

10/20 or 20/40 your choice,

i dont think they have 15/30 there or that would be ideal.



i'm worried that jason might get super pissed when i suck out on him after a bad call [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

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why do we need to check the river with top pair to feel sexy? Is it because we won't get called by a worse J?

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He's check raising.

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Oh, word. Ok I get it. And knowing the other player,

we're reasonably sure he'll bet, yes?

But what about the flop? Is it because no one likely has a piece of it that we can just bet out with nothing like this?

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Uh, flush draw.

This isn't nothing