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illegit 09-26-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Gazes Call with AK after 2 all ins 4 handed
 
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Given how close his stack was to one of the all-in players, I'm not sure I see the reasoning for the call.

You have to figure that at least one of these players has a pocket pair. The most likely holding for a player without a pocket pair is a weaker ace--but if there's a weaker ace out there, then your 3-way equity with AKo goes down.


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Goes down, but not far enough down to fold. i.e. if he's against JJ and AQ his equity is STILL 34%. Since he's getting 2-1 on a call his call is correct in this situation.

If he folds: He's pretty much guaranteed 3rd, and has an OK shot at 2nd (though he's still a dog to the 2 bigger stacks), and 1st will still be very tough as the short stack.

If he calls and loses: he's still guaranteed 3rd, but now 2nd and 1st are basically impossible

If he calls and wins: he's guaranteed 2nd and has a real good shot at first.

The risk/reward for a call looks pretty good to me.

Dynasty 09-26-2005 06:46 PM

Re: Gazes Call with AK after 2 all ins 4 handed
 
The more I've thought about this hand, the more folding AK seems to be a terrible decision. I just don't see a good arguement for laying down the hand.

2+2 wannabe 09-27-2005 03:35 AM

Re: Gazes Call with AK after 2 all ins 4 handed
 
who actually won the hand?

mother_brain 09-27-2005 03:36 AM

Re: Gazes Call with AK after 2 all ins 4 handed
 
Clearly the WSOP is rigged for action.
I thought it was a fold while watching.
I think it is a call after reading this thread.

MicroBob 09-27-2005 07:54 AM

Re: Gazes Call with AK after 2 all ins 4 handed
 
and this is the case regardless of whether he ONLY cares about finishing first...or if he is just trying to maximize his equity (since it is a fairly standard money prize-structure).


Actually...even if 4th place gets $0 it's a reasonable call (assuming the other two guys really DO have equal stacks that are slightly smaller than his) because he still should have 3rd mostly locked up.


I can only envision folding here if the top 3 places all paid equally AND 4th place got zero.
In that case he's running the risk of the shorter-stacks splitting the pot while leaving him with a miniscule-stack...while folding the hand still gives him a fighting chance to make the top 3.

But in the situation as is it just HAS to be a call:
It's 4-handed and they could have a LOT of hands here....it's a normal prize-structure...he has both stacks covered...1 of the players is likely to get eliminated right now regardless of whether the AK wins the hand.

Folding here is really bad.


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