Re: A Hand Against Roy Cooke
 

But don't these same worse hands almost always bet into you on the river if you check the turn? And if they don't bet the river, won't they call if you bet the river?

Re: well said dynasty and why cooke\'s turn bet is awful
 

"One more point, is Roy Cooke overrated?"

no.

"Can we post this on UPF?"

yes.

Re: well said dynasty and why cooke\'s turn bet is awful
 

I don't think Roy won this hand. Chicago lost it by not raising. Short and sweet.

Re: well said dynasty and why cooke\'s turn bet is awful
 

what part of "i have my opponent betting into me while he has way the worst of it (a 2 outer!) so why on earth would i want to raise and scare him away?" dont you understand.

go back and read mason and dynasty's posts and steer clear of any hold em tables until this all makes perfect sense to you.

Re: well said dynasty and why cooke\'s turn bet is awful
 

How much of the pot did you take down? Roy is an excellant player and he glided right in.

one thought...
 

...concerning your thought number 2....i agree roy could have a wider range of hands here than most, and i would be tempted to 4 bet preflop and try to take back the initiative...

would this be a good "vary your play move" or just plain suicide? even if the move fails this hand, you might make roy slow down a bit against you

hillbilly- "trying to shed the tighty image without throwing a party with all his chips"...

Re: one thought...
 

With AQ I call, but with AK and the pot headsup, I like to 4-bet about 25-40% of the time. Don't know if that's right or not, but its how I play in this spot.

Re: well said dynasty and why cooke\'s turn bet is awful
 

<font color="#666666"> i posted a 15-30 AQ hand a few months back where i 3 bet in the bb against an aggressive semi-solid 40-80 regular and she 4 bet preflop. the board by the river was ATx-x-x and my play was check-call, check-call, bet. she called and my hand was good. the vast majority of posters hated the way i played it. i like that. </font color>

This is a brilliant play, and I agree that if most mid-limit players say this is wrong, I have bright days ahead of me when I leave Seattle....so to speak.