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sweetjazz 10-03-2005 02:48 PM

Re: 150k hands graph
 
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OP moved up because he was winning money and figured he must be playing a lot better than everyone else (though likely he was not).

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He was losing at 1/2 and 3/6.

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Not sure if I followed OP's story correctly, but he initally won at those limits and then came back and played them as he moved down in limits during his downswing and continued losing in these games as well.

EDIT: Looking more closely, he was breakeven his first 30K - 40K hands, so clearly he moved up before he had any reason to believe he was beating the games. Then he went on an incredible heater. Whatever his motivations for moving up initially, they were not based on a justifiable belief that he was a better player than the others at the table. Hopefully that will be different the second time around.

kapw7 10-03-2005 03:07 PM

Re: 150k hands graph
 
I'd rather shoot myself than play 100K hands at 0.5/1

Dex 10-06-2005 12:05 AM

Re: 150k hands graph
 
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Would you post your detailed stats? I am pretty sure you would have some obvious holes in your game we could maybe help you with.

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Here they are. I've separated them by before/after the "peak" on the main graph.

6max, all limits, before the peak:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...tion6maxUp.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...ails6maxUp.jpg


6max, all limits, after the peak:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...on6maxDown.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...ls6maxDown.jpg


Full ring, all limits, before the peak:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...tionFullUp.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...ailsFullUp.jpg


Full ring, all limits, after the peak:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...onFullDown.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...lsFullDown.jpg

billyjex 10-06-2005 12:21 AM

Re: 150k hands graph
 
what jumps out at me is 1) your went to showdown is low and 2) you aggression on all streets is way too high. I suppose this is due to you folding way too much. (possibly you are very aggressive postlfop, and make people fold a little more, so this will lower the showdown % as well.)

I would venture that you need to call more. Let people bluff. Don't pump your draws too hard..

jph0424 10-06-2005 12:23 AM

Re: 150k hands graph
 
You are not getting to showdown nearly enough and part of the cause is folding to too many river bets. You are on the tight side preflop which is fine but with a VPIP of 21.5 (after the peak) a WTSD of 31 is far too low. You are folding many winning hands. Try calling down a bit more as your turn and river aggression factors are also pretty high.

w_alloy 10-06-2005 02:28 AM

Re: 150k hands graph
 
You should be playing way more hands from the BB for full and short. This number is far too low on all of the charts listed.

w_alloy 10-06-2005 02:31 AM

Re: 150k hands graph
 
Also, I really think you should just play full. It looks like you are not adjusting to the SH aggresion well, as you arent going to SD enough. Your winrate is much better in full games. Even better, less variance; I'm sure you really really dont want downswings right now.

Edit: Just reviewed, the winrate isnt as much better as I thought but my advice still stands.

Python49 10-06-2005 04:05 AM

Re: 150k hands graph
 
Just move up to 100/200, the reason you're losing is because too many donks at the low limits.


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