Re: My pocket KKs are losing
 

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I guess in a HU situation, if they will check/fold if they miss, and we pay them off all the time they hit, they might make money when we have KK.

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I don't want to derail this thread too far so I'll limit myself to one reply. If Ax always folds when it misses its A and always gets to showdown when it hits, then maybe KK would lose money (my back-of-the-envelope calcs still show KK to be a solid winner in this scenario). But, Ax will play on with losing hands when he hits his kicker (and is still behind) as well as sometimes when he misses completely.

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It has been my experience that players who play any ace-rag will routinely call down, hoping to spike that ace. They almost certainly see the turn.