Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 

To be sure, "states' rights" is something that most people hear in high school and parrot the rest of their lives in the hopes of sounding educated.

Such a complex event as the War of Northern Aggression can't be singled down to a single factor like "slavery" or "states' rights," with the possible exception of "economics."

Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 

why don't you guys just lay out the issue right now.

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Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue.

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I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country.

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Do your personal thoughts have any basis in fact?
Maybe you should read about the civil war and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class.

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do you not like tony? i am just wondering, as i like to keep up on the comings and goings of OOT. i have already learned one poster has an IQ of 156 today.

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whats the problem with the flag then?

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I don't have a problem with it. I do think it has A LOT to do with racism. For those that have never been in the south it's hard to explain. But I don't have a problem with it and I don't have a problem with swastikas.

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Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue.

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I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country.

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Do your personal thoughts have any basis in fact?
Maybe you should read about the civil war and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class.

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What is the point then?

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Edit to note that I am VERY against banning people for rebel flags, swastikas, ghost bumping, stupid polls and pretty much all the [censored] people get banned for each day.

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Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.
 

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why don't you guys just lay out the issue right now.

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This topic first came up for discussion in the mod forum. I'm not going to replicate a 100 post thread for lots of reasons, not the least of which is I don't need to. Mat mentioned moving it to a public forum and wacki jumped on the idea by posting it here. I have no idea why he did that. If you want someone to fill in the holes, ask him, not me.

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why isnt the mod forum transparent to everyone? seems like it should be.

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To be sure, "states' rights" is something that most people hear in high school and parrot the rest of their lives in the hopes of sounding educated.

Such a complex event as the War of Northern Aggression can't be singled down to a single factor like "slavery" or "states' rights," with the possible exception of "economics."

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I consider states' rights a very broad topic. Though you are correct that the broader issue is economics.

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