Re: Well sekrah?
 

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I challenged him to a match, he cowered back into the corner like a gutless punk.. Then called out on it, he comes back with an large amount of money that he knows I won't match.

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$5000 is roughly my opportunity cost for 100 hours of 20/40 and 40/80.

Re: Well sekrah?
 

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$5000 is roughly my opportunity cost for 100 hours of 20/40 and 40/80.

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Assuming a blended mix of 20/40 and 40/80 (making it a 30/60 game), your rate is roughly .83 BB/hour. You should work on your in-person reads.

Will you let me take your picture?
 

Sekrah,

At least let me take a snap shot of you.

Re: Well sekrah?
 

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$5000 is roughly my opportunity cost for 100 hours of 20/40 and 40/80.

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Assuming a blended mix of 20/40 and 40/80 (making it a 30/60 game), your rate is roughly .83 BB/hour. You should work on your in-person reads.

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bwahaha, Sfer obviously needs to get the same Oakley's that the troll has, he obviously can read into his opponents soul to put them on one hand, and ONLY one hand.

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Re: Well sekrah?
 

No, not one hand.

I put my opponents on one of three hands.

A) Better than mine
B) Worse than mine
C) A Draw.

and very, VERY good at it.

Re: Do it online
 

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I'm good in live play because I'm good at determining how strong (or weak) everybody at the table is. I don't put people on a "Range" of hands.. I put people on A HAND!

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This is awesome.

Re: Do it online
 

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Except for an occaisonal MTT, I don't play online.

My strengths are my reads, not mechanical play. I prefer live play. The entire discussion and dispute of me laying down TPTK was based on my reads.

I can guarantee you, my BB per 100 hands would be lower online than it is in live play. I'm not a good online player.. No reads, too many other distractions around the house, and no interest in competing against data miners are the primary reasons.

I'm good in live play because I'm good at determining how strong (or weak) everybody at the table is. I don't put people on a "Range" of hands.. I put people on A HAND!

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Its not enough to put someone on a hand, you also have to know what the right play is once you make that read.

By the way, I think sfer is one of the better hand readers on 2+2. He is definitely better than me at hand reading.

For the games you are playing hand reading is highly overated. If you are intent on putting someone on a specific hand you are making a big mistake. I guarantee that in the long run your over-reliance on hand reading will lead you to have worse results than someone who doesn't read well at all but who plays technically excellent.

If you were playing in game in which most of your opponents played fairly well, it would be different. But in the live games you are talking about you are almost better off if you never put your opponent on a specific hand.

You are a guy who knows a thing or two about poker and is running well over a short period of time. Good luck. I don't know why sfer is wasting his time with you - I guess he thinks it is fun.

Re: Do it online
 

My hand reading consists of, Strong, Weak, Draw.. I'm pretty good at putting people on one of those 3 characteristics.

I think going through all the possible hands somebody could be holding at a particular moment is the wrong road to go down..

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My hand reading consists of, Strong, Weak, Draw.. I'm pretty good at putting people on one of those 3 characteristics.

I think going through all the possible hands somebody could be holding at a particular moment is the wrong road to go down..

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I think you should write a book on Hold'em. Your concepts are so revolutionary, it would be a best seller. Can someone introduce him to Avery Cardoza?

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Re: Well sekrah?
 

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It's pretty clear sfer doesn't want to be there when I'm there and he's pretty much being a coward.



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Was your father an idiot, too?

Re: Do it online
 

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My hand reading consists of, Strong, Weak, Draw.. I'm pretty good at putting people on one of those 3 characteristics.

I think going through all the possible hands somebody could be holding at a particular moment is the wrong road to go down..

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Ok, I see. For instance, in that AK hand where you flopped top pair top kicker in a big pot, you knew that all 5 of your opponents were on a draw, so you folded on the flop. Now I see why you are so good.

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My hand reading consists of, Strong, Weak, Draw.. I'm pretty good at putting people on one of those 3 characteristics.

I think going through all the possible hands somebody could be holding at a particular moment is the wrong road to go down..

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Ok, I see. For instance, in that AK hand where you flopped top pair top kicker in a big pot, you knew that all 5 of your opponents were on a draw, so you folded on the flop. Now I see why you are so good for Max Power to poop on.

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fyp

Re: Well sekrah?
 

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No, not one hand.

I put my opponents on one of three hands.

A) Better than mine
B) Worse than mine
C) A Draw.

and very, VERY good at it.

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Wow, that is amazing. So simple. I wish I would have thought of that sooner. I mean, why should I bother to calculate odds and outs - if my opponent has a better hand, I should fold, right? I guess I should have folded this hand, right:

K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] vs opponent's 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Board: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He's got a pair, his hand is better than mine, right? <font color="white"> wrong, I'm a 57-43 favorite </font>

Or how about this one:

6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] vs opp A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Board:
A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

He's got a bigger pair, so I should fold, right? <font color="white"> wrong, I'm a 52-48 favorite </font>

When does your book come out?

Re: Do it online
 

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My hand reading consists of, Strong, Weak, Draw.. I'm pretty good at putting people on one of those 3 characteristics.

I think going through all the possible hands somebody could be holding at a particular moment is the wrong road to go down..

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Ok, I see. For instance, in that AK hand where you flopped top pair top kicker in a big pot, you knew that all 5 of your opponents were on a draw, so you folded on the flop. Now I see why you are so good.

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I think one of his opponents was put on stronger hand, and the rest on draw (maybe one on weaker hand?), but those reads combined gave him only 8 safe turn and river cards, so it's an easy fold.

Re: Do it online
 

No.. i said I'd be willing to throw away my hands based on my read..

If I read strength for two tight players who bet and raised in front of me, I could very well be behind to two pair! Combined with a couple draws calling, I have to catch a 4-outer to improve my hand (flush cards dirty) and dodge another 17 cards for a combined flush and straight.

I don't fold TPTK routinely in these games.. Every situation is completely different.. I merely stated that there are potential situations for me to throw it away in these games, and I got blasted, as calling TPTK is always +EV according to the genius players on 2+2.

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If I read strength for two tight players who bet and raised in front of me, I could very well be behind to two pair!

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A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]!

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Those two things don't make sense together!

Re: Well sekrah?
 

Idiot..

I know more about pot odds and implied odds than you'll ever dream of knowing about. Thanks for bringing up an example that has nothing to do with what the original hand and fold is about.

Re: Do it online
 

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I don't put people on a "Range" of hands.. I put people on A HAND!

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You scored a 0.3 (on a 0-100 scale) on credibility before this statement. Now you're at an even zero.

Re: Well sekrah?
 

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I know more about pot odds and implied odds than you'll ever dream of knowing about.

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