Re: Eli Manning
 

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Naw, I can't blame him but I'm just arguing that Eli isn't really better than Kurt was last year.

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5-4 I think. And we've had this discussion.

Re: Eli Manning
 

Tiki and Strahan are certainly two of thie biggest reasons the Giants have had such a good year. But they're not the only reasons.

Re: Eli Manning
 

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Tiki and Strahan are certainly two of thie biggest reasons the Giants have had such a good year. But they're not the only reasons.

[/ QUOTE ]nawp, only reasons.


edit: and I mean this in an overly simplistic way, but without a doubt all the success of their offense can be attributed to them having a solid running game, and all their success on defense can be attributed to their excellent pass rush, which is caused mostly by Strahan.

Re: Eli Manning
 

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He is extremely accurate down the field when he has time to throw.

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From what I've seen the last couple of weeks this statement is flat wrong. He is streaky, but is way off on a lot of throws where he has plenty of time.

Re: Eli Manning
 

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1. Tiki gained some weight

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You apparently slept through Tiki's 2004 season?

Re: Eli Manning
 

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1. Tiki gained some weight

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You apparently slept through Tiki's 2004 season?

[/ QUOTE ]no, he had an excellent year last year, but this year he tried to gain some muscle mass in the offseason. It has paid off, he is a harder runner, and will break his rushing total from last year by atleast 2 bills. Not the same Tiki as last year.

Re: Eli Manning
 

...so 200 yards is the biggest reason they're going to be 5-6 games better than they were last year? Surely you're joking.

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...so 200 yards is the biggest reason they're going to be 5-6 games better than they were last year? Surely you're joking.

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Don't call me Surely.


I also said Strahan's play on D was also a major factor.

Anyways, a great running game ( a 1600 yard back at that) helps a teams overall offense immensely. Probably more than any other aspect of a teams offense.

Re: Eli Manning
 

Tiki was amazing last year. He's ever-so-slightly more amazing this year. He's a small reason for their improvement.

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I also said Strahan's play on D was also a major factor.


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You're ignoring their *other* pro-bowl DE?