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FoxwoodsFiend 12-14-2005 11:49 PM

Re: GIGABET.
 
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And if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play.


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There is no way you can say that, it's totally false. When you're a LAG you cannot just roll over every time somebody plays back at you. At least, not in anything more advanced than $33 Party SnG's.

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I can't believe everybody's knocking AcesHigh as some sort of idiot for pointing out that calling a reraise with 57o is a bad play. It just swells the pot and it's almost a certainty that the only way you're winning the pot is by bluffing, which will now be VERY expensive and also very risky because your reraising opponent would have to not get a piece of the flop. In other words, that's a lot of chips to risk later on in the hand on the off chance your opponent has nothing AND misses the flop when you could just fold your 57. LAGs can't profitably be run over. And they also can't profitably call every time they're reraised. I would say 57o is on the "fold" end of that spectrum.

Jbrochu 12-15-2005 12:00 AM

Re: GIGABET.
 
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I can't believe everybody's knocking AcesHigh as some sort of idiot for pointing out that calling a reraise with 57o is a bad play.

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I didn't call him an idiot, just expressed my opinion that his statement was wrong. Without knowing the table dynamics, reads, possible tells, etc. his statement that the call was bad is just plain false.




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LAGs can't profitably be run over. And they also can't profitably call every time they're reraised. I would say 57o is on the "fold" end of that spectrum.

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Agreed that normally it's a fold, but maybe this guy had played back at him once or twice and he let the hands go?

The statement "if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play" is false without knowing the entire situation.

PickyTooth 12-15-2005 12:04 AM

Re: GIGABET.
 
they're playing with really deep stacks. Calling a reraise with it isn't bad at all. Even if all it could do is please shania

Fallen Hero 12-15-2005 12:38 AM

Re: GIGABET.
 
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And if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play.


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There is no way you can say that, it's totally false. When you're a LAG you cannot just roll over every time somebody plays back at you. At least, not in anything more advanced than $33 Party SnG's.

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I can't believe everybody's knocking AcesHigh as some sort of idiot for pointing out that calling a reraise with 57o is a bad play. It just swells the pot and it's almost a certainty that the only way you're winning the pot is by bluffing, which will now be VERY expensive and also very risky because your reraising opponent would have to not get a piece of the flop. In other words, that's a lot of chips to risk later on in the hand on the off chance your opponent has nothing AND misses the flop when you could just fold your 57. LAGs can't profitably be run over. And they also can't profitably call every time they're reraised. I would say 57o is on the "fold" end of that spectrum.

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they are (were) #1 and #2 in chips

ekw 12-15-2005 12:46 AM

Re: GIGABET.
 
It doesn't work that way.

UMTerp 12-15-2005 12:47 AM

Re: GIGABET.
 
UPDATED CHIP COUNT AS OF 11:45 EST (per Pokerwire):
Blinds 5K/10K, 1K ante

Place Poker Player Chip Count
1 Patrik Antonius $ 980,000
2 Joe Cassidy $ 905,000

3 James Van Alstyne $ 820,000
4 Darrell Dicken $ 808,000
5 Brad Booth $ 670,000
6 Ron Kirk $ 660,000
7 Adam Friedman $ 655,000
8 Doyle Brunson $ 595,000

9 Joanne 'J.J.' Liu $ 590,000
10 Phil Laak $ 565,000
11 Eskimo Clark $ 540,000
12 Mike Gracz $ 510,000
13 Frank Vizza $ 480,000
14 Bengt Sonnert $ 460,000
15 David Levi $ 440,000
16 Peter Costa $ 430,000
17 Barny Boatman $ 420,000
18 Jeff Rine $ 400,000
19 Joe Sebok $ 390,000
20 Brian Lamkin $ 360,000
21 Loi Phan $ 350,000
22 Dwayne Moyers $ 330,000
23 Jeff Littlefield $ 326,000
24 Woody Van Stratum $ 320,000
25 Davood Mehrmand $ 300,000
26 Jesse Jones $ 270,000
27 Rehne Pedersen $ 260,000
28 Kermit Beasley $ 259,000
29 Marco Traniello $ 240,000
30 Dennis Waterman $ 220,000
31 Barry Greenstein $ 210,000
32 Rod Hurlbut $ 200,000
33 Glynn Beebe $ 200,000
34 Steve Rassi $ 170,000
35 Mads Andersen $ 145,000
36 Jeff King $ 125,000
37 Jason Song $ 125,000
38 Don Zewin $ 112,000
39 Michael Yoshino $ 103,000
40 Noah Jefferson $ 100,000
41 Terri Evanowski $ 95,000
42 Ray Sanchez $ 94,000

ismisus 12-15-2005 01:33 AM

Re: GIGABET.
 
Gigabet is a genius, because many people do not understand when to play (7 5) and make it EV+ for a particular situation

TheMainEvent 12-15-2005 03:11 AM

WOW
 
Joe Cassidy just called a 200K raise from Antonius after leading 120K with A7 high on a 965QJ board and his hand was good. I am speechless.

Autocratic 12-15-2005 03:14 AM

Re: WOW
 
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Joe Cassidy just called a 200K raise from Antonius after leading 120K with A7 high on a 965QJ board and his hand was good. I am speechless.

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I'll never be a great poker player.

flatline 12-15-2005 03:25 AM

Re: WOW
 
With the board showing 9s-6d-5d-Qh-Jh on the river, Joe Cassidy bets $120,000 into a $500,000 pot, and Patrik Antonius raises to $320,000. Cassidy makes an incredible call with Ad-7c (ace high). Sure enough, Antonius shows Ah-3d, and Cassidy's kicker plays to win the entire pot.

Joe Cassidy is our new chip leader with approximately $1.45 million, while Antonius is down to $500,000.

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unreal


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