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He was saying that, unlike 2002, there is no chance for example Portugal and Sweden being in the same group.

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And he was also say the Serbia and Montegnegro cound not face Holland... Which is wrong...

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I never said that, plz quote it for me.

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I never said that, plz quote it for me.

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Right here:

In the year 2002 England and Sweden ended up in the same group, but in this year edition Holland( the powerful non-seed) can only be placed in Serbia& montenegro group.

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how does that mean Holland cant play with Serbia & montenegro?

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pwned

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Here's a few random thoughts.

Sven Goran Erikkson (England manager), wants to avoid Australia (url=http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=332750&CPID=4&CLID=&lid= 13&title=Eriksson+keen+to+avoid+Aussies&ch annel=world_cup]here's full text from skysports[/url]) due to the rivalrly between the two. I agree with this, a team being put in your group that will play harder against you than the other teams is a big deal. While they were very good in general, I felt the same way about Senegal being in the same group as France. That also is what would happen if the US faced Iran so to the extent that I'm cheering for the US, I'm glad we're in the same pot as them.

I think people are underestimating Spain. Spain are a very good team. They haven't ever won the world cup finals but have very good players and what many consider to be the best domestic league in the world. Both Spain and the Netherlands have a long, storied history of choking in the world cup though.

Something very cool about this draw is that it will basically guarantee that two very weak teams are in the same group. On one hand it can be bad as the other two teams have a cakewalk through to the next round but it's good to see small countries have some success, and people from those countries go crazy if they win a match even if they finish bottom of their group. I'd like to see T&T match up with either Ivory Coast or Togo.

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But you write it is only in S&M group...

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thats rigth holland cant be drawn with ukraine, poland, sweden, portugal, switzerland, czech.rep or croatia. they can only be drawn with serbia & montenegro, thereby there no risk to have a super death group like in 2002.
edit: serbia & montenegro is the only unseeded european team that can be drawn with holland, that doesnt mean that serbia & montenegro will be on hollands group.

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They can also miss Serbia and Montenegro all together.

Check what the word "only" means!

Because if Holland doesn't have Serbia & Montenegro - Then they could face Germany/France/Spain/England/Italy...

Why couldn't those European teams create a super death group????

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ok now the discussion is back to football.
The hardest possible group is:
Brazil, Holland, Australia/Ivory Coast, Serbia/USA.
While that group is a pain in the ass u cant compare it to Argentina, England, Nigeria and Sweden. Thats all.