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oh yeah...I've been underestimating Penn St and fading them all year. This is nothing new. The team has made me eat crow a few times this year, the most memorable was before tOSU game where I said something like "Penn St is just like Ohio State. Their systems, schemes, and personnel are mirror images, except that Penn St is the JV version."

OK so I was very wrong. Stands to reason that I might be wrong again. I just am convinced that Penn St, and the great majority of Big10 teams, are no good this year. The one exception is tOSU, whose defense I absolutely love. If the coaches had discovered the Pittman running attack earlier and did some better play calling with Troy Smith, well...who knows?

I've said earlier, while I love the PSU D, I just cannot erase the last 5 years of PSU offense out of my brain. I just don't see national title type offense. I'm exhibiting an anchoring and adjustment error in my judgment and decision making. I know this, yet stand firmly behind it.

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Eh, fair enough....you're admitting your judgment is off and you're sticking with it, not really anywhere to go from there. Keep fading them.

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I watched the game. IMO, The better team lost. It happens, especially on the road. The turnover edge played huge. I still think tOSU is better.

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Geez man you are pretty set on this, I'm having trouble understanding some of your points. Please don't get me wrong tOSU is an damn good team easily one of the best in the country. But PSU was very dominant defensively in that game with the exception of one drive. Of course turnovers played a role, they normally do. They are a big part of the game. Winning teams typically turn the ball over less. I don't understand how that makes PSU a lesser team because they won when they got more turnovers. Penn State was favored, they won, and they are really about one illegit second away from being undefeated. Clear your head man, I think you are remembering the last few years for PSU. Different season. Big turnaround.

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For what its worth, Penn State was definitely not favored (+3), and likely would not be favored on a neutral field even if there is a rematch.

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I watched the game. IMO, The better team lost. It happens, especially on the road. The turnover edge played huge. I still think tOSU is better.

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Geez man you are pretty set on this, I'm having trouble understanding some of your points. Please don't get me wrong tOSU is an damn good team easily one of the best in the country. But PSU was very dominant defensively in that game with the exception of one drive. Of course turnovers played a role, they normally do. They are a big part of the game. Winning teams typically turn the ball over less. I don't understand how that makes PSU a lesser team because they won when they got more turnovers. Penn State was favored, they won, and they are really about one illegit second away from being undefeated. Clear your head man, I think you are remembering the last few years for PSU. Different season. Big turnaround.

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For what its worth, Penn State was definitely not favored (+3), and likely would not be favored on a neutral field even if there is a rematch.

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Close to being a nit but my bad about them being favored. You're right. It all speculation but I don't see why tOSU would be favored at a neutral site. Pick em at best I'd say. This is somewhat pointless, it was settled on the field. Remember when Tamba Hali crushed Smith and made him fumble squelching that last futile effort? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] I do.

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I like ND + 4.5...going to play this game on the moneyline.
Georgia bulldogs -8.5
Penn State..JOE PA in bowl games? EASY MONEY!
PSU...florida state hasnt been the same ever since they lost Mark Richt to georgia...