Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have him on AJ, AQ, KQ

[/ QUOTE ]

i think it's pretty reasonable to put villain on 3 hands after he makes one pre-flop raise.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's nothing. Earlier this year someone claimed that with K3 he had his opponent dominated. "Read of the Century" was the consensus, though it was not clear if he put the villain on K2 or a worse three.

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

I'd call.

You are not ahead of his range (so I wouldn't worry about isolating).
You have no FE (pot is laying him 2.2:1 if you push and he is not crippled). His opening bet committed him against many players.

Both sides have FE ATF (villain has less since hero is almost all in) ; hero has position.

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

[ QUOTE ]
You are not ahead of his range (so I wouldn't worry about isolating).

[/ QUOTE ]

if you don't think you're ahead of his range, you should probably fold.

[ QUOTE ]
You have no FE (pot is laying him 2.2:1 if you push and he is not crippled).

[/ QUOTE ]

you messed up the math - it's 1.84:1. 5600 more to win a total pot of 5600*2+1900*2+900. villain has to win 35.2% to be neutral chipEV, so a compentent villain will fold his trash hands and probably stuff like J9o.

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

Thanks for correcting the math.

The intangibles are worth the call to me.

Villain only has to be 35% in the pot and should call with his entire legitimate opening range from MP1. Yes he might dump stealing hands, but without a read I'm going to assume GAP.

On a sidenote I would consider T1900 an awkward bet. I don't ascribe anything to it other than: is this villain's normal opening bet for his entire range of hands.

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

I dont like calling because you're only happy when the flop is undercards and nobody raises you behind.

More often than not there will be paint on the flop, and your 6k with a 5k pot [assuming nobody else calls/raises] will leave PFR no FE, assuming he already didn't have you dominated.

And second, if somebody behind you pushes for t4-5k and PFR or even somebody else comes along too, are you happy that just called? I wouldn't be, especially since I can no longer legally raise, and have no FE left, basically waiting for a 9 against 2+ players w/ playable/decent hands at worst

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

I usually play hands that are lower than a set.

I'm happy to see a single paint on the flop.

Hero's range is pretty tight to call 25% of his stack against an EP/MP raiser. Button, SB and BB aren't all going to push/call because they sense weakness.

You are not ahead. Is pushing OK, yes because it has high variance, but probably EV- (considering remaining players left to act) (its even against MP1).

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

Can anyone tell me why re-raising to $4200 is bad? And push/call push on any board if u get called and then call an all in rereaise by original raiser?


ViolentGandhi

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

[ QUOTE ]
Can anyone tell me why re-raising to $4200 is bad?

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
I have 7500 in chips

[/ QUOTE ]

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

putting 60% of your chips in at any point at any hand without going allin is pretty much never a good idea.

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

With no solid reads on any opponents I usually go to my default mode and assume that everyone is raising for value from early/early-middle position. For this reason, I could side here with Woodguy because I am not yet in a desperate position. Also 3 players yet to act who I also have no read on. With a solid image at the table and reads on my opponents, this hand could be played totally different.

Re: 99- What\'s your line?
 

man i push i cant really fathom why anyone is advocating a call then a possible fold