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AngryCola 11-26-2005 04:08 PM

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Doubtless you would find it admirable that someone having studied arithmetic and learned that 2+2=4, nonetheless kept an open mind if someone claimed 2+2=3.

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No, but 2+2 most certainly does not equal three, and there is plenty of math to prove it. Seriously, your points are not very good.

wacki 11-26-2005 04:11 PM

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Comparing Saddam to Hitler is quite a stretch, but your point about people's attitudes being similar back then is a valid one, IMO.

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Why is it such a stretch? Because hitler was crippled thanks to our first attack and simply didn't have the military might yet? Or is it a stretch because he wasn't brutal enough?

If it's the first reason then there's an excellent speech given in parlaiment where two well written and well constructed newspaper articles are read. They are both argueing as to why they shouldn't go to war and sound exactly the same. One article is about Saddam and Iraq, the other article was written about hitler in 194x. I wish I had that video.

If you think Hitler is not as brutal as Saddam then maybe you need to study Iraqs history some more.

AngryCola 11-26-2005 04:19 PM

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Comparing Saddam to Hitler is quite a stretch, but your point about people's attitudes being similar back then is a valid one, IMO.

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Why is it such a stretch? Because hitler was crippled thanks to our first attack and simply didn't have the military might yet? Or is it a stretch because he wasn't brutal enough?

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It's a stretch because the two situations and individuals are quite different. I fail to see how that could be difficult to understand. Perhaps you need to study more history?

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If you think Hitler is not as brutal as Saddam then maybe you need to study Iraqs history some more.

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What? I don't see how anyone would think that is what I believe or was trying to say. Lots of people share similar characteristics, but that doesn't mean it always makes sense to compare them to each other.

wacki 11-26-2005 04:32 PM

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Ehhh my last post had a typo. I meant saddam was crippled because of our first attack. Then again so was hitler for a while....

ugh... I want to get in an arguement but I don't have time to do this.

wacki 11-26-2005 04:51 PM

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Perhaps you need to study more history?

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My comment on you reading history only pertains to the brutality part. If I was rude I'm sorry.

BluffTHIS! 11-26-2005 04:51 PM

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No, but 2+2 most certainly does not equal three, and there is plenty of math to prove it. Seriously, your points are not very good.

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And there is plenty of physics to show that the probability of interstellar space travel by beings of another planet while not zero, isn't much higher than that either. Thus opinions to the contrary don't need to be shown much respect. The need to show some smidgeon of indisputable evidence is incumbent upon those who assert such theories.

But hey, if you want to believe the X-Files were really fact based, then go ahead. The big wheel in the casino is also a fantastic bet.

wacki 11-26-2005 05:15 PM

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And there is plenty of physics to show that the probability of interstellar space travel by beings of another planet while not zero, isn't much higher than that either.

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You do realize that this is exctly what cola was saying. Andyfox made an absolute statement and cola corrected him.

It's like saying god doesn't exist. You can use all the physics and science you want but you can't prove god doesn't exist.

BluffTHIS! 11-26-2005 06:19 PM

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You do realize that this is exctly what cola was saying. Andyfox made an absolute statement and cola corrected him.

It's like saying god doesn't exist. You can use all the physics and science you want but you can't prove god doesn't exist.

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Then by Popper's standard, the non-falsifiability of UFOs places investigations into them outside the realm of science. Same as with most religions and the existence of God.

AngryCola 11-26-2005 06:43 PM

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But hey, if you want to believe the X-Files were really fact based, then go ahead.

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Yep, you really got me with this. :shrug:

This sort of attitude tells me that I shouldn't even bother responding to your nonsense in the future. So, I won't bother. If you feel that's because I can't refute what you say, you are very wrong. It's just a complete waste of my time to attempt to intelligently debate with a person who is only interested in his own opinions.

Resorting to calling me a UFO nut, and suggesting that I believe the X-Files was based on reality, is truly juvenile.

But you are, of course, entitled to believe whatever you like. Just don't expect me to care.

BluffTHIS! 11-26-2005 06:53 PM

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Just don't expect me to care.

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How cruel.


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