Re: Reasonable shot at protection?
 

Here's the rest of the flop action.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (19 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button calls.

Re: Reasonable shot at protection?
 

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but the idea of raising here for protection is silly.

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I've already listed about 5 examples in this thread where this raise can be for protection.

Re: Reasonable shot at protection?
 

About the only ones I buy are mid PPs who would have called one bet to try to hit their set but won't call two.

The other examples you gave are either wishcasting, or given that they called 2 (yes, it was calling 2 after having limped, but still) with those hands they're going to call two on the flop with them as well.

Re: Reasonable shot at protection?
 

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (19 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, Button calls.

River: (14.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qs As (flush, ace high).
Button has Kd Qc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 16.50 BB. </font>