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Buckmulligan 11-02-2005 02:10 PM

Re: confused AJo
 
surely we can find a raise here on the end. If these players are donktastic, they call your raise with any piece. Worse hands also three bet.

El Ishmael 11-02-2005 02:40 PM

Re: confused AJo
 
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surely we can find a raise here on the end. If these players are donktastic, they call your raise with any piece. Worse hands also three bet.

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Umm, follow the action. Why would you raise? What worse hands are 3-betting?

Buckmulligan 11-02-2005 02:46 PM

Re: confused AJo
 
We are behind SB like 1/20 times here. Sets and straights would have not waited this long to wake up. If he's Laggy, nearly all jx combos 3 bet this. We especially get a 3 bet from QJ and Kj. Furthermore, there's a good chance button comes along. I think we have 60% equity over button, and I will be a little concerened if he 3 bets, but im not shitting my pants. It looks to me as though he may have strengthened a draw on the turn.

El Ishmael 11-02-2005 02:50 PM

Re: confused AJo
 
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We are behind SB like 1/20 times here. Sets and straights would have not waited this long to wake up. If he's Laggy, nearly all jx combos 3 bet this. We especially get a 3 bet from QJ and Kj. Furthermore, there's a good chance button comes along. Monstrous equity on the end. Monstrous.

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There's no way SB is bet/3-betting JT here after just calling the whole way. If we raise here, we didn't we 3-bet the turn? What has changed? Button will typically overcall if we call or fold if we raise if he has just been counterfeited, and we get the same amount here anyway. Going to war on this river is not smart given the action so far. Also consider that we are behind button fairly often, IMO, and if we're not, we should be 3-betting the turn. Which is not something I think any of you want to do.

Buckmulligan 11-02-2005 02:53 PM

Re: confused AJo
 
Im going to go out on the line and say that almost any lag 3 bets JT on the end. You make a good point though about our situatoin not being much different on the turn.

El Ishmael 11-02-2005 02:58 PM

Re: confused AJo
 
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Im going to go out on the line and say that almost any lag 3 bets JT on the end. You make a good point though about our situatoin not being much different on the turn.

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We were never given the information that SB was LAG though, unless I missed something. And this same LAG would def be going wild on the flop with top pair.


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