Re: declaring all-in in a limit game
 

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The idea during these fixed limit games is to help players stay in the game by not going bust (sort of a "protection" for the weaker players). Allowing a play that makes it easier to go bust would be against the nature of a fixed limit game.

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Ahhh...so now limit poker is no longer a different game than no-limit, it's just training wheels until you are ready for no-limit.

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How on earth you made that inference from the post you're replying to is an utter mystery to me.

Limit poker keeps SOME players, the fish, in the game longer. That's not up for debate. It has nothing to do with your knowledge of poker or what poker game(s) you plan to play.

Re: declaring all-in in a limit game
 

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The idea during these fixed limit games is to help players stay in the game by not going bust (sort of a "protection" for the weaker players). Allowing a play that makes it easier to go bust would be against the nature of a fixed limit game.

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Ahhh...so now limit poker is no longer a different game than no-limit, it's just training wheels until you are ready for no-limit.

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How on earth you made that inference from the post you're replying to is an utter mystery to me.

Limit poker keeps SOME players, the fish, in the game longer. That's not up for debate. It has nothing to do with your knowledge of poker or what poker game(s) you plan to play.

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This is why card rooms do not like spreading NL. They spread it most palces becasue the guests come in and that is all they want to play, but a lot less money goes down the rake in NL. The restricted buy-in games make it a little more like limit, so this keep the guests form busting as fast as they would in a standard NL game.

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You generally have to already have overs in place before a hand starts

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Ah, right. I wasn't sure if you could come to an agreement on the end, to save time for others, if you didn't have an "overs" agreement in place between you before the hand.

Re: declaring all-in in a limit game
 

Hey next time just 15 bet and fold to a 16 bet [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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One more note on this if playign I think it is better to just keep raising, instead of slowing the action by asking if they want to go all in. They might reconsider their position.

I was once playing with a drunk that woudl raise to the felt heads up on the end as a bluff; not once in a while, but everytime he had no pair on the end all the money was going in (except I think I was the only one brave enough to go all-in with him without the nuts).

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This happened to me last weekend at 10/20. I turned quad aces and sure enough, drunk guy starts reraising and saying his aces full has to be good enough. We go 13 bets till I am out and I show him the bad news. Without missing a beat he drunkenly mumbles, "That's the first time I've had 4 aces shoved up my arse. NH." I'm pretty sure if I tip him off that I'll go all the way with him he folds.

Re: declaring all-in in a limit game
 

i did this one time in a 4/8 game in aruba. flop was Q75 and i had QQ, villain had AA. we just kept raising until he proposed we go all in, i said ok.