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I have to agree fully with bigt here and I think megabet is missing the point completely. He isnt saying that he always has 55,66, A3, but that he can. 77 is a fav over overcards not an underdog, blinds are big, you have more than he does. Would you do 8s, 9s, or 10s here? or just play tight to blind level 10,000/20,000.

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I don't think I'm missing anything here. I accept that he CAN have hands like 55, A3 (I even said so in a previous post). 9s or above I would probably call because it dramatically cuts down the number of overcards villain can have. The point I am trying to make is that I am confident of my ability to make the money here, and gambling with 7s I just wouldn't do in this situation, unless I read villain as a habitual blind stealer, which he doesn't seem to be according to the OP. If some of you aren't so confident about your play and want to gamble with this hand, then it makes sense. I am purely going by what I would do. My opinion. It's not gospel. Never said it was. At least I am explaining my point of view rather than completely dismissing it by saying "this is ridiculous".

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I'm not folding a midpair when my opponent has 4.5BB. That's just silly.

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Wow i'm really suprised that this post got so much feedback. I ended up folding because I figured that chances were I was racing or worse. Also i figured it be a better play to push any 2 next hand if folded to me. I know it's results based so it doesn't really matter but I ended up winning the sng. Thanks alot for the feedback

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Wow i'm really suprised that this post got so much feedback. I ended up folding because I figured that chances were I was racing or worse. Also i figured it be a better play to push any 2 next hand if folded to me. I know it's results based so it doesn't really matter but I ended up winning the sng. Thanks alot for the feedback

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Good play. It's always best to avoid these kinds of races if you're confident in your own ability. Nice win.

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FWIW I instapush and I think folding sucks.

Megabet, I don't think you realize how +ev calling against two overcards is.

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Geez, this is the same old debate.

+EV now, or wait because "I'm such a good player I can get a better spot later."

I'm in the first camp, but whatever.

Let's just let it go.

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Megabet, I don't think you realize how +ev calling against two overcards is.

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It's not +ev at all.

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Megabet, I don't think you realize how +ev calling against two overcards is.

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It's not +ev at all.

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I guess that depends on if I did these ICM numbers correctly and if you believe them:

Fold
3000
4315
2825 (you)
3360

EV Fold: .2238


Call/win
3000
4315
6185 (you)

EV Call/win: .3721


Call/lose
3000
4315
5650
535 (you)

EV Call/lose: .0598

EV Call/race 55:45 in your favor: 0.2316


EDIT: Not that -I- believe these numbers, I don't think you have as much equity as it suggests when you call and lose. If you get the newest version of SNGPT you can set it up to discount your EV some for the fact that you post half of your stack in the SB. I didn't do that because I am at school and did these numbers by hand.

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I was thinking marginally +ev on flips (which might be closer than expected as I hadn't ran any numbers),which he talked about like they were the end of the world.

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FWIW I instapush and I think folding sucks.

Megabet, I don't think you realize how +ev calling against two overcards is.

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Maybe +cEV, but definitely -$EV.