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billyb 08-30-2005 08:56 AM

Re: Anyone else noticed this JTs BS?
 
No 72os is the best hand.

peace

kleos 08-30-2005 09:38 AM

Re: Anyone else noticed this JTs BS?
 
AA against 2 guys who had been playing chicken all night:

PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (21 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls $0.04 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (17 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (29 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 40.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Qh Jh (one pair, queens).
MP2 has Js Jc (one pair, jacks).
Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has Ts Kc (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins 40.25 BB. </font>

the true best hand is A7s:

PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (32 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls $0.03 (All-In), MP2 calls, BB calls.

River: (34.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 44.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 3c Jc (straight, six high).
Hero has 7s As (straight, seven high).
MP1 has Ts 8s (straight, six high).
MP2 has Ad 4d (straight, six high).
Outcome: Hero wins 44.75 BB. </font>

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Sexton said something about JTs being a hand pros love. That might be all it takes these days.

SA125 08-30-2005 11:17 AM

Re: Anyone else noticed this JTs BS?
 
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If everyone limps to me in the BB I'd probably rather be holding JTs than AA.

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Yikes.

Black Aces 518 08-30-2005 12:59 PM

Re: Anyone else noticed this JTs BS?
 
BB is awful.

Evan 08-30-2005 01:34 PM

Re: Anyone else noticed this JTs BS?
 
Raise preflop. Don't 3 bet preflop. Don't raise the turn.

theghost 08-30-2005 02:51 PM

Re: Anyone else noticed this JTs BS?
 
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Lately I've been hearing a lot of people in B&amp;M rooms saying "JTs makes the most money in poker." Its generally a retard, but lately I've heard people I otherwise respected spouting off this BS. Last night it was some douche college kid that I had a running conversation with, and I asked him wtf he was talking about it, and he gave some retarded explanation. I asked him if he meant "JTs can make the most straights" or something like that. He was pretty sure JTs makes the most money of any hand in poker. Anybody else heard this garbage?

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Im sure he said it makes the most nuts str8's. But dont talk to the fish.

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any str8 made with JT is the nut str8, this may have something to do with why everyone seems to be so in love with it.


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