Re: I hate this spot
 

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What about calling the flop and raising the turn intending to take the free showdown. If he three bets your toast and gives you a chance to fold a better hand.

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Intellectually this line is appealing, however:

1. We're never folding a better hand here HU.

2. We can get to showdown for the same price, and be 100% sure that we didn't get bet out of the pot by a worse hand.

3. We encourage a bluffer to continue bluffing. Raising the turn lets him get away 1 bet cheaper if he would have taken a shot at the river.

Aggression is the mantra of these forums, and rightly so. However, there are times when the best play is to call all 3 postflop streets. This is one of them IMHO.

Surf

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1. Once in a while you will fold a better hand here, but it's rare. You will however fold a hand with outs reasonably often. Even a bluff likely has outs.

2. Without a read, this can be a dangerous line. I feel confident that if we get 3-bet folding is safef 99% of the time. It's not like we have an overpair here.

3. Sometimes a bluffer has outs we don't mind folding. And sometimes a bluffer will give up on the river. And sometimes he has a draw.

Krishan

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1. Most hands villain can hold that are behind have 5-6 outs. On the turn the pot is 3.5BBs and we'd much prefer villain to put an extra, incorrect bet in on a big street than let him fold his beaten hand. In a bigger pot i'd agree with this argument.

2. If we get 3bet we are toast a very high %age of the time. This is not 100%, however, and whatever small % we are behind + times we would have improved costs us money.

3. True, sometimes a bluffer will give up on the river. He would have given up on the turn had we raised, so the point is moot. Sometimes he has a draw - I think these are more likely to bet the river because of the "it's the only way I can win the pot" mentality.

(4. We have position. If he gives up his bluff with bottom pair on the river, we value bet.)

Surf