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TimTimSalabim 02-07-2005 02:07 AM

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The Pats are nowhere near as dominant as say, the Lakers were a few years ago. They weren't even a prohibitive favorite in tonight's game, only 7 points, and they didn't even cover that.

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Whether or not a football team covers the gambling spread should not be a factor.

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It shows that they underperformed according to the public's expectations, a public that clearly did not consider them dominant in the first place, or they would have been favored by more.

sublime 02-07-2005 02:08 AM

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how many are clearly defined dynasties?

ummm, by your standars probably none of them.

no team in NFL HISTORY has won 3 in a row. and only one other team (dalls) has won 3 out of 4.

sfer hit the nail on the head. they are a MODERN dat NFL dynasty. could they beat the powerhouses of even a decade ago? probably not, but that doesnt subtract what they have accomplished.

sublime 02-07-2005 02:10 AM

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public's expectations

yeah, cuz the public is so smart.
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TimTimSalabim 02-07-2005 02:10 AM

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It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.

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If the Lakers had won each of their championships in the seventh game of the series on a last second field goal, I don't think they would have been considered a dynasty. The dynasty came from their absolute dominance of their opposition. Dynasty = dominance, not just winning.

sublime 02-07-2005 02:12 AM

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Dynasty = dominance, not just winning

lol, this just keeps getting better.

AngryCola 02-07-2005 02:36 AM

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think if they win a third consecutive superbowl, then its a dynasty, but I am not sure about it now.

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By that standard, the Cowboys of the 1990s weren't a dynasty.

Ponks 02-07-2005 03:41 AM

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I think there is more to dynasties then that. I think dynasties should be longer lasting then just 3 superbowls outta 4 years. They don't have to win every year but they should dominate for a good period of time. I guess it really depends on your definition of dynasty though. I didnt even watch the game, but this is my take.

Dynasty 02-07-2005 03:56 AM

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A poll on espn.com has about 85% of respondants saying the Patriots are now a dynasty. In the end, the term dynasty gets assigned by the fans (and media). I think they're going to speak in the Patriots favor.

jstnrgrs 02-07-2005 04:27 AM

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They are a new-age dynasty, but not doing too well 2 years ago is what sets them apart from historical dynasties.

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Two years ago, they were 9-7 and they missed the playoffs on the third tiebreaker. Certainly not dominant, but I would hardly call it "not doing to well".

jstnrgrs 02-07-2005 04:29 AM

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The Pats have won all three SBs by a mere field goal. And one SB they only played in because of a bad call in a previous game. Hardly a dynasty in my book.

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Perhapse a bad rule (I'm sure you'd be supprised to know that I like the rule just fine [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]), but not a bad call.


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