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jwvdcw 10-08-2004 09:43 AM

Re: Interesting No Limit Question
 
oh and btw....

wrong forum [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Squirrel 10-08-2004 09:44 AM

Re: Sticking to my guns
 
What is he going to do?

If he has the Jack of Diamonds, he will do anything he damn well pleases.

I am ridiculously correct.

Victor 10-08-2004 09:47 AM

Re: Interesting No Limit Question
 
raise a lot (to about 2000)

jwvdcw 10-08-2004 09:48 AM

Re: Sticking to my guns
 
[ QUOTE ]
What is he going to do?

If he has the Jack of Diamonds, he will do anything he damn well pleases.

I am ridiculously correct.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yet another interesting aspect of this scenario:

Lets say that nobody has both the flush draw and the straight, which is the most likely scenario. If you bet big, you may scare the other straight out of the pot since if hes anything like Squirrel, he'll fold to a big bet.

TheGrifter 10-08-2004 09:53 AM

Re: Sticking to my guns
 
[ QUOTE ]
Still no one has agreed with me, but I'm sticking to my guns.

I can't even imagine putting another chip into this pot.

I would be willing to bet if you asked this question to good PL Omaha players, the responses would be very different.

[/ QUOTE ]

Der...but this isn't omaha.

Eratosthenes 10-08-2004 09:55 AM

Re: Sticking to my guns
 
This noob agrees--just fold.

In a real tournament, with less time to think, I would probably have raised big or pushed to fold Mr Flushdraw out of the pot and split with Mr Straight.

bingledork 10-08-2004 09:57 AM

Re: Interesting No Limit Question
 
Raise the minimum $200 to try to keep the flush draw in.
He can't call a raise of $700.

Then villian #2 can reraise and you can push the flush draw out.

Squirrel 10-08-2004 10:08 AM

Re: Sticking to my guns
 
The fact that it's not the MOST LIKELY scenerio isn't the point. The point is that it's a very viable scenario.

So you want to raise? You will either win a small pot, chop a small pot,chop a big pot(WHICH WILL NET YOU THE SAME AS CHOPPING A SMALL POT) or you will be playing for your entire stack with NO chance of winning the whole pot and about a 20 percent chance you will go broke.

That's terrible.

Another thing, let's say you raise to eliminate the flush draw and do so(about 1000 or so). The original better, who has a straight with the Jack of Diamonds and no flush draw can still move in on you. (You don't know if he is freerolling you or not, but you KNOW you can't win the whole pot)

How do you like your hand now?

You are SERIOUSLY underestimating the power of any player holding the Jack of Diamonds.

Squirrel 10-08-2004 10:10 AM

Re: Sticking to my guns
 
Or Mr. Straight made his straight with the Jack of diamonds and some other diamond.

You just made the Ad2d fold behind you.

Mr. Straight puts you all in on a complete freeroll, you call, the 8d hits the river and you complain about your "bad luck"

knucklehead 10-08-2004 10:13 AM

Re: Interesting No Limit Question
 
E kills the odds for a flush draw...


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