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BigBaitsim (milo) 09-27-2004 04:45 PM

Re: party poker
 
Certainly humans can be a greedy lot, and certainly big corporations and little have been known to skim. Even the staggeringly wealthy have been known to cheat a bit so they can get what really amounts to a pittance more. That having been said, online poker remains quite profitable for quite a few people (myself included), so whatever skimming that might be happening, it is just an added bit of rake. I hope this is not occurring, but if it is, it is subtle and not the "cashout curse" or "deposit boom" so many people talk about.

All of this only supports the notion that internet poker would be much better if legalized in the US and properly watched over by a gaming commission with real teeth (like a death penalty for offending sites). Unfortunately, this is not in the offing, but I would happily pay a bit more rake for this relative peace of mind.

Edit: Forgot to mention this... If you can't beat the small stakes Party games, you probably suck and need to take up a different hobby.

PhatPots 09-27-2004 05:02 PM

Re: party poker
 
I think your crazy. I have heard people make claims that on the river an ace comes to frequently which allows the bad players to win by chasing down Axo, etc. I also have hearc claims that it isn't a real shuffle and isn't really random. I have been winning, ur probably just unlucky to have a bad run of cards. Also, sometimes when people starting winning the way you describe, they begin to overplay their hands, they loosen up, and don't follow the ABCs of poker.

Felix_Nietsche 09-27-2004 05:03 PM

Re: Party Makes $1,000,000,000 per year - why rig it?
 
Yes I am aware of this. You might as well the sky is blue and grass is green. And by-the-way, you've just made my point.

My father has a PhD and a former college professor... I grew up with this stuff... It was not my intention to insult any PhDs. My point is most Phd thesis have very narrow applications. Can we talk about poker?...

sfer 09-27-2004 05:17 PM

Re: Party Makes $1,000,000,000 per year - why rig it?
 
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My father has a PhD and a former college professor... I grew up with this stuff... It was not my intention to insult any PhDs. My point is most Phd thesis have very narrow applications.

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Wow! Mine too, but he never taught. Want to compare SAT scores or something equally pointless?

What was your point? Right, online poker is rigged. Try this on: No it's not. Next.

Felix_Nietsche 09-27-2004 07:02 PM

Re: Party Makes $1,000,000,000 per year - why rig it?
 
I don't know if your intentially trying to come accross as a pompous ass....But you need to re-Read my post, for you failed to get the point.

I NEVER-EVER-EVER said on-line poker is rigged. I don't know whether it is 100% on the square or not. Because of human nature, I said it is within the realm of possibilities that the s/w could be modified to increase profits.

Meanwhile, please spare me any further lectures and platitudes...

Meanwhile I will CONTINUE to play on-line poker and read 2+2 posts that STAY on the subject of poker... And posters who express their ideas in a civil manner.

Evan 09-27-2004 07:06 PM

Re: party poker
 
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always getting beat by bigger hands

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These are usually the one's that beat you. But watch out cause every once in a while a sneaky smaller hand will beat you too. I hate when a pair of aces loses to 7 high, I always think "How'd they do that?"

luckycharms 09-27-2004 07:13 PM

Re: party poker
 
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you know, I won like crazy on party too. I played like almost a thousand hands on there and was killing the game! then I signed up for empire (so I could play more tables), which is supposedly the same games, etc. but the software is totally different, because I've been getting rivered like every other hand!! I think that party must know I signed up for empire, and this is their way of punishing me.

--turnipmonster

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Is my sarcasm-o-meter off or is this really coming from a pooh-bah?

luckycharms 09-27-2004 07:14 PM

Re: party poker
 
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I once had TPTK and lost to a set on Party. Clearly rigged. I haven't played online poker since then. I'm no sucker.

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Haha. Word. That couldn't happen in a casino. I ain't never seen dat on WPT!

davidross 09-27-2004 07:30 PM

Re: party poker
 
Anyone who plays online goes through a period of distrust when they start. When I first signed up at a site I made my deposit and then withdrew $50, just to make sure I could actually get money out.

We hear complaints from people who won originally and then went through a bad stretch, simply because they are still around. The people who lose right out of the gate probably wuit and don't come back, so we never hear those stories, and the people who last a long time before their first bad run don't have anything to complain about.

THis doesn't only happen to new accounts. Last week I lost $6k between SUnday and Thursday, posting losses 4 days out of 5, the first time that has ever happened to me in 2.5 years of online play. Just when I was convinced I would never win again, I made $6,007 on Friday, my biggest single day win ever. It doesn't mean anything is fixed, those are the normal variations that are to be expected in a game of chance. You will get used to the swings eventually, but it will take a while.

Melvin Udall 09-27-2004 07:33 PM

Re: party poker
 
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.


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