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Good point about not calling the police on your friend. If you do that one time, your friend is finished with you. And most junkies don't trust others as it is.

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i'd rather lose a freind and save a life than watch a freind die, though... still not calling the fuzz.

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I am not saying that losing a friend is your priority, but when the person wants to stop using, but has a hard time on her own, then you won't be there for her. There are lots of addicts who truly want to quit, but it is psychologically very tough.

craig

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Forcing people to stay "clean" does not fix the problem. How long can/will they do this for?

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learning to totally avoid the substances that cause problems for a person is just running away, IMO. learning how to drink/use responsibly is the HARD part... some people cannot, though. it's complicated.

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did you see the south park? it was about alcohol and the quote I like was something like...if you have to go to AA meetings and convince yourself not to drink, then drinking still has a hold on you and you have problems. When you can have a beer or two and stop is when you are in control.

something like that.

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Forcing people to stay "clean" does not fix the problem. How long can/will they do this for?

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learning to totally avoid the substances that cause problems for a person is just running away, IMO. learning how to drink/use responsibly is the HARD part... some people cannot, though. it's complicated.

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I find this quote amusing. "Sure, I use to be an addict, but now I only smoke once a day."

I do empathize with your problem. An addict myself, I had to find my own bottom and my own way out. And then the desire to help my friends do the same. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Not really sure how it works. Your friend will be in my prayers tonight.

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You are wrong. At least in major cities that is not how it works (I have no idea how it works in Mayberry). What makes you think police know how to deal with addicts? They know how to deal with them at the time, but not once they are sober. It isn't their job to help addicts recover.

Also, most cities, once you are sober you are out. Now, like I said, after the 3rd or 4th time, they might keep you in jail for a few weeks, but even then, what will that do.

Also, why do you equate "beating sense into her" and "police know how to deal with addicts"?

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i dunno i assume they know how to deal with them because they deal with them a lot. suppose that might not be true. i agree it isn't the cops job to clean them up, but i'm pretty sure they have to report these people to detox places, and they do have to pass some classes as part of their punishment (at least that is the case in my town [eugene, OR just for note]).

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Good god man. They don't deal with them in any way that is helpful to the addict. They process them. The system sorts them out. If they are lucky they don't end up in prison getting raped and wanting to kill themselves and others.

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You are wrong. At least in major cities that is not how it works (I have no idea how it works in Mayberry). What makes you think police know how to deal with addicts? They know how to deal with them at the time, but not once they are sober. It isn't their job to help addicts recover.

Also, most cities, once you are sober you are out. Now, like I said, after the 3rd or 4th time, they might keep you in jail for a few weeks, but even then, what will that do.

Also, why do you equate "beating sense into her" and "police know how to deal with addicts"?

craig

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i dunno i assume they know how to deal with them because they deal with them a lot. suppose that might not be true. i agree it isn't the cops job to clean them up, but i'm pretty sure they have to report these people to detox places, and they do have to pass some classes as part of their punishment (at least that is the case in my town [eugene, OR just for note]).

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Good god man. They don't deal with them in any way that is helpful to the addict. They process them. The system sorts them out. If they are lucky they don't end up in prison getting raped and wanting to kill themselves and others.

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ok to clear things up (maybe), cops = anything gov they may experience after being arrested. i absolutely agree that police officers won't do anything, but if you go back to the original thing i said, i would have my friend arrested if he was going crazy with drugs, simply because that is a guaranteed way for something to happen, good or bad.

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You are wrong. At least in major cities that is not how it works (I have no idea how it works in Mayberry). What makes you think police know how to deal with addicts? They know how to deal with them at the time, but not once they are sober. It isn't their job to help addicts recover.

Also, most cities, once you are sober you are out. Now, like I said, after the 3rd or 4th time, they might keep you in jail for a few weeks, but even then, what will that do.

Also, why do you equate "beating sense into her" and "police know how to deal with addicts"?

craig

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i dunno i assume they know how to deal with them because they deal with them a lot. suppose that might not be true. i agree it isn't the cops job to clean them up, but i'm pretty sure they have to report these people to detox places, and they do have to pass some classes as part of their punishment (at least that is the case in my town [eugene, OR just for note]).

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Good god man. They don't deal with them in any way that is helpful to the addict. They process them. The system sorts them out. If they are lucky they don't end up in prison getting raped and wanting to kill themselves and others.

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ok to clear things up (maybe), cops = anything gov they may experience after being arrested. i absolutely agree that police officers won't do anything, but if you go back to the original thing i said, i would have my friend arrested if he was going crazy with drugs, simply because that is a guaranteed way for something to happen, good or bad.

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There are other things you can do for a "guaranteed way for something to happen." I mean, the OP can switch her cocaine with rat poisoning. She would most likely never do coke again.

craig

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i think you're crazier than i

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go to hell.

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I could have 10 pounds of pot in my house and I wouldn't even think about it. I wouldn't have to put any type of "limit" on myself. If you put those same pounds of cocaine in my house, well, wow.....


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