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Relying on poker for a living is stressful. If you don't thrive on stress its not a good idea.

Imagine working on an assembly line in a factory and doing exactly the same work every day, but the end of the week your paycheck is a random number, not revealed in advance.

Sometimes, its a nice fat paycheck, but sometimes, even though you work just as hard every week, its a negative number. The factory actually made YOU pay to work there that week. And they might do it again next week, you can't be sure...

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This is a great analogy. It is not really the stress of poker that bothers me, as I have lots of back up plans/finances that I'm not too worried about failure.

My other two jobs I had in college were working selling electronics completely on commission, so I've never actually had a steady paycheck. I wouldn't want it any other way.

I worked at Circuit City back when salespeople were on commission, and if someone brought something back it came off your totals for that day. There were days I worked 10 hours and sold -5,000 dollars worth of stuff. However, in the long run I made three times as much as I possibly could have imagined. It was a good summer.

I love the feeling that the harder you work the better you get paid. Commission based pay is the way to go for me, though most people will disagree.

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Life is lovely when your not busy.

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Sounds good to me. If it seems to be working then keep doing it I'd say...

I'm 38 now and went through a major depression spell from age 29 to 32. In a nutshell my problem was that society was pushing me to go in directions I didn't want to go, and I didn't know why. Making money was always easy (in terms of intellectual challenge, not necessarily energy output), but it always seemed like the wrong things were being rewarded. Basically to make decent money you had to either be a whore or sell your soul to the devil in some metaphorical way.

Then I stumbled on the Unabomber's Manifesto

http://www.thecourier.com/manifest.htm

It made me realize that you COULD reject everything modern society stands for, and still be an intelligent, valuable human being.

After a great deal of reflection, long discussions with friends, good and bad relationships with various women, I have finally reached a point where I can confidently represent the anti-society side and am able to articulate noble goals for myself and family.

I don't know if the same road is right for you, but just in case I thought I'd share my story and the UM.

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I'd just like to say that I can't believe I've read through most of this already. But I thought this was interesting/relating to poker:

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41. For many if not most people, surrogate activities are less satisfying than the pursuit of real goals ( that is, goals that people would want to attain even if their need for the power process were already fulfilled). One indication of this is the fact that, in many or most cases, people who are deeply involved in surrogate activities are never satisfied, never at rest. Thus the money-maker constantly strives for more and more wealth. The scientist no sooner solves one problem than he moves on to the next. The long-distance runner drives himself to run always farther and faster. Many people who pursue surrogate activities will say that they get far more fulfillment from these activities than they do from the "mundane" business of satisfying their biological needs, but that it is because in our society the effort needed to satisfy the biological needs has been reduced to triviality. More importantly, in our society people do not satisfy their biological needs AUTONOMOUSLY but by functioning as parts of an immense social machine. In contrast, people generally have a great deal of autonomy in pursuing their surrogate activities.

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I worked at Circuit City back when salespeople were on commission, and if someone brought something back it came off your totals for that day. There were days I worked 10 hours and sold -5,000 dollars worth of stuff. However, in the long run I made three times as much as I possibly could have imagined. It was a good summer.

I love the feeling that the harder you work the better you get paid. Commission based pay is the way to go for me, though most people will disagree.

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whooohooo circut city... yeah you always have that as a backup to poker.. nice option [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I worked at Circuit City back when salespeople were on commission, and if someone brought something back it came off your totals for that day. There were days I worked 10 hours and sold -5,000 dollars worth of stuff. However, in the long run I made three times as much as I possibly could have imagined. It was a good summer.

I love the feeling that the harder you work the better you get paid. Commission based pay is the way to go for me, though most people will disagree.

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whooohooo circut city... yeah you always have that as a backup to poker.. nice option [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Why don't you [censored] off?

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Just ignore him.

To clear it up for others, my backup to poker is continuing my original plan by going to the grad school which I already got into. Circuit City, back when they were paying on commission, was a great place to work. Many salespeople worked there as a full time job and made enough to support a wife and kids....




Actually I got some good news tonight. A track coach of a local high school offered me a position coaching their throwers. The pay will be insignificant in the grand scheme of this year, probably a few thousand bucks for the winter and spring, but this takes care of the "I'm kind of bored during the day and I need something to focus on" problem. I would have done it for free if they wanted me to, as I have volunteered coaching there in the past. I'm pretty excited.

The next is a family friend is opening a bar nearby and is looking for someone to bartend part time. This might be a perfect job for some extra cash where I can make my own schedule/work nights.

Things seem to be coming together. Hopefully Alantic City this week and weekend can be friendly.

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I agree. Poker is the mundane business of satisfying biological needs while most so-called real jobs are surrogate activities.

IMO it's much better to focus on what really matters, even if there is a lot of down time and boredom involved, than to constantly fool yourself into believing that what you're doing is important when it's not.

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I am making enough money playing poker that I should not have been depressed over the last few months. Yet I was.

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Maybe your just naturally depressed and need some drugs



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One quick hit and I could start a business, and I'd be happy

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Dude, that ain't ever gonna happen in a casino

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We talked for a while and I began to feel better about myself. I wasn't alone.

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Yeah a conversation on AIM could work magic - go out and get some pussy if you feel so alone.


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I'm also thinking of volunteering at the nursing home my mother works at, just a few hours a week, to have an activity where I interact with others.

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Umm? Yeah, if you wanna wash old people or something... Try enrolling at some bullshit college grad courses - maybe once a week - making the objective not grades - but "interacting w/ others" or better yet? get a job, you loser

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Smile to the grocery store cashier as she rings up your food

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Yeah, and think to yourself - that might be me one day - imagine my depression then.


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I feel that everything else will just fall into place.

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Better get over this crap first - good luck!

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wow this guy's a dick

Lil\' Jonnies Demise
 

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Actually I got some good news tonight. A track coach of a local high school offered me a position coaching their throwers. The pay will be insignificant in the grand scheme of this year, probably a few thousand bucks for the winter and spring, but this takes care of the "I'm kind of bored during the day and I need something to focus on" problem. I would have done it for free if they wanted me to, as I have volunteered coaching there in the past. I'm pretty excited. The next is a family friend is opening a bar nearby and is looking for someone to bartend part time. This might be a perfect job for some extra cash where I can make my own schedule/work nights. Things seem to be coming together. Hopefully Alantic City this week and weekend can be friendly.

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ok so i guess we know everything about you now, your whole damn life story, haha - except maybe how often you take a crap. I'ma guess once every few days cuz you seem to be full of it [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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I am making enough money playing poker that I should not have been depressed over the last few months. Yet I was.

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Maybe your just naturally depressed and need some drugs



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One quick hit and I could start a business, and I'd be happy

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Dude, that ain't ever gonna happen in a casino

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We talked for a while and I began to feel better about myself. I wasn't alone.

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Yeah a conversation on AIM could work magic - go out and get some pussy if you feel so alone.


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I'm also thinking of volunteering at the nursing home my mother works at, just a few hours a week, to have an activity where I interact with others.

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Umm? Yeah, if you wanna wash old people or something... Try enrolling at some bullshit college grad courses - maybe once a week - making the objective not grades - but "interacting w/ others" or better yet? get a job, you loser

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Smile to the grocery store cashier as she rings up your food

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Yeah, and think to yourself - that might be me one day - imagine my depression then.


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I feel that everything else will just fall into place.

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Better get over this crap first - good luck!

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wow this guy's a dick

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