Re: 80/160 AK hand vs Tommy, missed some betst?
 

Man, when Tommy sees a 2+2er at the table he must be thrilled. He knows he is in their head for sure......

Re: 80/160 AK hand vs Tommy, missed some betst?
 

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I've never played against Tommy, but if his posts are typical of his style, then you're facing a very tight opponent who is also capable of making some rather big laydowns.

Now, when you face a tight player, you usually want to bluff more, and value bet less. However, Tommy is probably smart to recognize if you do something as obvious as going passive with your good hands, and attacking with bluffs. Right?


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i've read all your posts in this thread.

no matter what i do there is 0 percent chance i will get tommy to fold AA here, and obviously not KK (or TT).

so if i'm "bluffing" it wil be with the best hand here. Folding QQ/JJ is not a "big laydown" here. he will be correct to do so obviously.

my main contention is that i'm not so sure tommy will pay two big bets with qq/jj for a showdown, but may for one at the end.

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So, which do you prefer? You can play a little more passively with your strong hands, or you can play them aggressively and perhaps make a little less, while giving yourself the ability to steal some pots later.

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Two things.

1) Tommy plays very few hands.

2) I play very few hands.

3) We will play very few hands together.

Given these factors, I doubt attempting to bluff Tommy more is a viable strategy. There just won't be enough special situations where I'd even get the chance to profitably.

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Also suggesting a bet is the fact that, from what I understand, Tommy does not do a lot of check-raising.



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You would think this from what you read from him, but I've seen it with my own two eyes.

Re: 80/160 AK hand vs Tommy, missed some betst?
 

....but he's good at game selection, so if I see a table with Tommy and a bunch of people I don't know real well, I'm going to assume that's a fine game, and bankroll willing jump into it.

Re: 80/160 AK hand vs Tommy, missed some betst?
 

Hi Chris,

You make a good argument for value betting less instead of bluffing more, and I think this is perfectly valid. I was simply suggesting that bluffing is pretty profitable when the opportunity is there, so if you want to maintain this opportunity, you have to bet and raise with your good hands too, even though that is probably not optimal, as you suggest.


It doesn't surprise me to hear that Tommy plays differently than he posts. I've suspected it for a while now, which is why I qualified most of my posts in this thread.


nice hand.
eric

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It doesn't surprise me to hear that Tommy plays differently than he posts. I've suspected it for a while now, which is why I qualified most of my posts in this thread.


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no, he does exactly what he posts, but he also doesn't post about everything he does.

Re: 80/160 AK hand vs Tommy, missed some betst?
 

I'm just shocked to see how many people suggest checking this turn.

I'm equally shocked at how CDC bet this river.

Lawrence

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I'm equally shocked at how CDC bet this river.

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I have my reasonings. What are yours?

Re: 80/160 AK hand vs Tommy, missed some betst?
 

It must be pretty cool to have QQ vs AK on a king-high flop and to only lose 1.5BBs getting to showdown.

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Sorry if I'm a douche, which I am... but...

So your reasoning is that you will only win one bet here, and you want to see a showdown rather than have him fold the river?

Is that specifically so you can gain information about Tommy?

Just trying to understand the reasoning precisely.