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Annulus 11-18-2005 03:57 AM

Re: $33, passing up an edge by folding AK
 
why exactly is calling wrong?

jeffraider 11-18-2005 04:07 AM

Re: $33, passing up an edge by folding AK
 
I normally call here. At the $11s I push preflop because I utterly crush that range. The $33s are different enough that I probably call here, and I think calling has a lot going for it. First of all, if you catch an Ace then you stack AQ-AT and can eat a c-bet which should be in the 100-150 area, giving you some implied odds for calling. Second, if he does have a smaller pair, you can win the pot sometimes if he checks to you on a Q- or J-high flop. If you miss and the flop looks bad for you sometimes he checks to you anyways and you can grab a free turn card. I don't see many downsides to calling, really. Sure some of the time you drop 100 here and sometimes you make top pair and he makes a set, but calling takes all the bad sides of coinflips out and still lets you stack off against hands you dominate. I think folding is kind of poopy here honestly. AK in position against a PFR = Jeff's playing this pot.

Pete H 11-18-2005 04:57 AM

Re: $33, passing up an edge by folding AK
 
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why exactly is calling wrong?

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I don't think calling is wrong but the raise compared to the stack sizes makes this a close decision.

In a 1000 chip game I'd just call this.

In an 800 chip game I don't mind calling about 70 chips (standard raise) in this situation. 125 would be too much to call.

100 is on gray area.
In 11-22 I'd push this.
In 33 I don't like any option, but I'd probably push 75% of time and call 25% of time depending on my mood.

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ilikeaces 11-18-2005 06:11 AM

Re: $33, passing up an edge by folding AK
 
folding here is perfectly acceptable.

darkcore 11-18-2005 08:58 AM

Re: $33, passing up an edge by folding AK
 
i think i'd either call or fold. maybe, when i'm in gambool-mode, i'd push this.
the one thing i can't see me doing is throw in somekind of re-raise, which is imo the worst option.


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